World Heart Federation President " Increase in Carbohydrate intake increases risk of CVD"

[bulkbiker]

Not sure if everyone has seen this yet but it is quite interesting especially when you consider who is saying it...

The previous version of this video I posted had been removed. So thought I would repost.

 

[zand]

Wow! I hope my heart consultant reads this!

 

[bulkbiker]

e-mail it to them...

 

[daisyduck]

Very encouraging. Let's hope the NHS pay attention.

 

[Rustytypin]

And so the evidence against too many carbs continues to pile up. Wonder when NICE will get the message?

 

[Rustytypin]

Like my username says, i'm rusty at typin, you'r quicker than me, Daisy!

 

[ickihun]

I'm interested.
I do wonder why I started having physical signs of heart disease only once I started vlchf?
What has changed to cause symptoms? Was inflammation only triggered once I increased carbs after the honeymoon period of vlc? Inflammation causing my immobility and new to asthma?

 

[ann34+]

Not sure if everyone has seen this yet but it is quite interesting especially when you consider who is saying it...

https://www.dietdoctor.com/world-heart-foundation-president-fat-protective-carbs-harmful

Am in the process of going a bit lower carb, so i was looking at this thread. Then i saw this - thanks, very interesting and useful, and also it is very interesting re salt - i had been told to lower salt and no-one had asked what salt i had been having! The answer, if i had been asked, was very little, apart from naturally occurring salt and salt in cheese, and in an occasional slice of gluten free bread. i cook from fresh with no salt, etc etc, have few bought foods, etc. . It seems that lowering my salt intake was not good, and this video may explain why i have had so many infections - i have had numerous courses of antibiotics in the last year or two. Thanks again - just had salty feta cheese with lettuce in olive oil and hemp oil dressing with salt and added salt to my salt free peanut butter on my salt free corn cake (been buying salt free since being told to reduce salt!).

 

[Indy51]

Dr Kendrick has posted about this video as well: https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/2017/02/15/what-causes-heart-disease-part-xxvi/

 

[Squire Fulwood]

Very encouraging. Let's hope the NHS pay attention.

Oh ye of great faith.

 

[Squire Fulwood]

I Googled "Where did five a day come from" and got another Zoe Harcombe paper.

http://www.zoeharcombe.com/2012/03/five-a-day-the-truth/

You'll never guess who the main cast is in this play.

 

[ghost_whistler]

It's an interesting video and he seems credible - though I bet there's someone else with credentials who could argue the opposite. It's difficult not knowing whom to believe.

But I think there is a bit more to it than just 'eat more salt' or all fats are 'protective'. Of course this might not apply to everyone equally.

I must confess I still struggle to accept that sat fats are healthy to it in lchf amounts. I cannot shake that off - and I know what my gp would say too!

In fact a friend of mine was diagnosed with type 2 a few months ago and he went to a healthy eating class provded through the nhs. They taught him the conventional wisdom: low salt, low sat fats, etc. He's lost 16kg in 3 months. What can I say to that? I said nothing of course, I'm not going to tell him what he's doing isn't working, how could I prove that? Meanwhile I'm on day 16 of LCHF and haven't lost a single gram.

Not trying to focus on me, btw. Just making the point

 

[bulkbiker]

It's an interesting video and he seems credible - though I bet there's someone else with credentials who could argue the opposite. It's difficult not knowing whom to believe.

But I think there is a bit more to it than just 'eat more salt' or all fats are 'protective'. Of course this might not apply to everyone equally.

I must confess I still struggle to accept that sat fats are healthy to it in lchf amounts. I cannot shake that off - and I know what my gp would say too!

In fact a friend of mine was diagnosed with type 2 a few months ago and he went to a healthy eating class provded through the nhs. They taught him the conventional wisdom: low salt, low sat fats, etc. He's lost 16kg in 3 months. What can I say to that? I said nothing of course, I'm not going to tell him what he's doing isn't working, how could I prove that? Meanwhile I'm on day 16 of LCHF and haven't lost a single gram.

Not trying to focus on me, btw. Just making the point

Credible?.. did you see his job title.. this could be a huge step forward..

and yes people do loose weight on a calorie restricted diet .. but it's just not sustainable in the long term and the weight tends to creep back over time.. I think most of us have done it and found that out and maybe messed with our metabolisms in the meantime.

 

[Freema]

I'm interested.
I do wonder why I started having physical signs of heart disease only once I started vlchf?
What has changed to cause symptoms? Was inflammation only triggered once I increased carbs after the honeymoon period of vlc? Inflammation causing my immobility and new to asthma?

Could be the possible lack of pottasium and magnesium in an vlchf diet , if one had not taken that in consideration , or too much pottassium or other kind of diet induced unbalance in nutritions ... just guessing here or maybe the lack of salt which some say one need in added higher amounts on a vlchf diet as the low carbing foods tends to have lesser salt in them ( non processed foods ) and that carbs do hold water in ones cells which flushes out when we change our eating style to low carbing and in that flushing also a lot of Minerals/electrolytes

 

[kokhongw]

Meanwhile I'm on day 16 of LCHF and haven't lost a single gram.

I haven't lost any weight either over the past 18 mths. But I am happy with my glucose/insulin levels...

 

[ickihun]

From what I've observed anyone new to dieting has more success first time round. A psychologist would know more why.
I too have very low salt, all my life but still have acute hypertension on 3 tablets.
I was ok on pork scratchings but when stopped eating it weight loss was no ware to be seen. I was losing weight on my first attempt which held no added fat. Then I added too much fat for me! Guess what happened?

 

[Freema]

I haven't lost any weight either over the past 18 mths. But I am happy with my glucose/insulin levels...

But maybe vlchf diet combined with a somewhat calorie restricted diet would work maybe only 20 % lower calories than ones dayly need or 10% would work . That means of cause one has to count calories which most hates

 

[Brunneria]

Fascinating! Thank you for posting this.

Brilliant information about salt. I certainly won't be reducing mine. lol. I just won't be shovelling it onto my food with a trowel. But then I never have

Lovely common sense about veg, too. If you like it, eat it! Hahaha!

some beautiful soundbites too:
- until we get healthy food that is cheap too, people won't be able to eat it.
- studies that show fish is good, are likely just because fish replaces more harmful items
- The Great Fat Surprise - she shook up the nutrition world, but she got it right

 

[Freema]

From what I've observed anyone new to dieting has more success first time round. A psychologist would know more why.
I too have very low salt, all my life but still have acute hypertension on 3 tablets.
I was ok on pork scratchings but when stopped eating it weight loss was no ware to be seen. I was losing weight on my first attempt which held no added fat. Then I added too much fat for me! Guess what happened?

Maybe salt is not at all the reason for your hypertension could be that there is a whole spektrum of causes possible and not only a few.
Both magnesium and pottassium are by some scientists said to affect bloodpressure and so are muscle fitness .
Besides that I think there can also be genetic factors. In my family we have always had lower bloodpresure on my mothers familyline: my daughter has 90/45 which is extremely low blood presure, mine has been raising from going lower carb initially the lowest number has gone from the healthy 70 to being around 85-90 most of the time to my worry
Which is why I started looking for various reasons as I also excercise which usually lowers ones blood presure

 

[ME_Valentijn]

Salt recommendations have been formulated based on people with health problems (high blood pressure) who are affected by salt. It's also a matter of inappropriately extrapolating from research showing "salt = short term blood pressure rise" to assuming that "salt = long-term blood pressure rise" and therefore "salt = death from high blood pressure."

Whereas the reality is that most people have no problems with higher amounts of salt, and some benefit from it quite a bit. In my case it helps keep my blood pressure from getting too low. Restricting it would make me sicker