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Zoe Harcombe and her Diet

Discussion in 'Low-carb Diet Forum' started by ghost_whistler, Jun 19, 2017.

  1. bulkbiker

    bulkbiker Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Very relevant to debunking the diet heart hypothesis though thankfully..
     
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    covknit Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    On one of her video's she says people really must stop grazing. I shall paraphrase the next line as "Grazing is for cows" so she is against snacks and most of her stuff is for real food. In the stuff I have seen she is not promoting a diet for handling diabetes "or the strange" people that put butter on eggs. Viewing her diet from that "other direction" she refers to, including fibre makes more sense than would be credited to anyone suggesting it on this forum. On that aspect she is more in line with traditional dietary advice about roughage.

    Think this is the vid I am referring to about grazing and buttering eggs. The mushroom stuff is a new one on me.
     
  3. ghost_whistler

    ghost_whistler · Well-Known Member

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    I'm not asking him to work for nothing. I'm just sceptical of a site that teases the way he does He always links, from a question for example, to a video or an article that's pertinent, but you don't get to watch all of it.
     
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  4. ghost_whistler

    ghost_whistler · Well-Known Member

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    Right, buit i'm interested in hearing from people, if there are any, that have experience of her methods and what she advocates.

    I'm unsure how including brown rice and porridge is a positive thing. Those are very carb intensive.
     
  5. bulkbiker

    bulkbiker Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Because its not a diet for Type 2's? Is a diet for the general population who don't have diabetes.
     
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  6. bulkbiker

    bulkbiker Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Then be sceptical.. its up to you. You get a huge amount of free content if that's not enough then its $9 per month after your free month.
     
  7. Brunneria

    Brunneria Other · Moderator
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    She is suggesting real food for the general population. Not specific ultra low carb for diabetics.
    Why on earth would brown rice and porridge be a bad thing in that context?
    And they would only be 'very carb intensive' if eaten in excess - which is not something she advocates.
     
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  8. ghost_whistler

    ghost_whistler · Well-Known Member

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    It might be a bad thing if you're hypoglycemic and sensitive to those carbs; she claims hypoglycemia can be cured/managed through her diet.
     
  9. douglas99

    douglas99 I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Not even vaguely debunking, but if that's what you want to hear, you pay your money, and she massages your ego. Good all round then.
    I've shown you real charts.
    And you don't need to chuck me $9 a month, I'm good just to put up the real statistics for free.
     
  10. bulkbiker

    bulkbiker Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Off you go then.. show us the science that proves the diet heart hypothesis..
     
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    douglas99 I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    post deleted by moderator because it broke Forum Rule 12, bullet point 3
     
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  12. Brunneria

    Brunneria Other · Moderator
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    Hypoglycaemia is caused by a number of things, and no diet suits everyone.
    That is just common sense and often pointed out on this forum.

    I repeat, she is writing advice for the general population.

    Anyone with diabetes, RH or another medical condition should be applying their personal situation to interpreting her ideas.

    For example, someone with a nut allergy is going to subtract nuts from any way of eating they adopt. Likewise, if you personally have a problem with brown rice and porridge, then you should simply subtract those foods from any way of eating you adopt. That doesn't mean everyone has to avoid those things.
     
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  13. douglas99

    douglas99 I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Very true, I eat rice.
     
  14. douglas99

    douglas99 I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Guess I'm not showing anything here?
    Still eating Zoesters rice though.
    And still showing a way better fit to her cholesterol graph.
     
  15. serenity648

    serenity648 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    can i have a link to her cholesterol graph and an explanation of what is wrong with it please? hopefully in simple terms?
     
  16. Phdpaul

    Phdpaul Type 2 · Member

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    I subscribed to her site about 4 years ago and found some of the materials interesting, from an academic perspective. However, I didn't agree with some of her rationale regarding her diet, especially during the induction part. Moreover, she also discredired herself by claiming (at the time) to hold a PhD when in fact it was proven she didn't.
     
  17. sally and james

    sally and james Family member · Well-Known Member

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    Subscriptions to Zoe Harcombe's forum site started about a year ago. Four years ago I was reading it freely, though she did have a "club". This (dcuk) forum and its contributors need to be careful in what they say. To suggest someone was lying about having a Phd, if incorrect, is libel.
    Sally
     
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  18. ghost_whistler

    ghost_whistler · Well-Known Member

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    I would also like this.
     
  19. ghost_whistler

    ghost_whistler · Well-Known Member

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    forgive me, but that's a statement of the obvious, surely? If you are following dietary advice of any kind you are going to have to tailor it. If you have an allergy then yes, individually, it will behove you to avoid that food, even if it's included on a list of otherwise safe foods. I don't think she would dispute that at all. In fact I would hazard a guess assuming she points that out in her book (or should).
    But the point is that brown rice is a sugar rich food and, generally, it is reasonable to assume that might best be avoided in a diet intent on addressing a blood sugar problem. I'm just curious as to her rationale for this, based on her research.
     
  20. Brunneria

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    You are assuming that everyone has similar problems and requires the same dietary regime, and that simply isn't true.

    As usual on these boards, it all comes back to 'test your own reactions to food, and adjust your way of eating accordingly.'

    If you are curious as to her rationale, then you should be asking her, via her website, rather than speculating on a forum, and then rejecting all the answers you get. Far better to go straight to the source.
     
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