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Hi, my name is Jennifer -- new here

Here is a graph showing weight loss on LCHF diet and then LCHF diet + Intermittent fasting. (Using Dr. Jason Fung's intermittent fasting advice.)

Notice the weight loss slope is more steep with the intermittent fasting combined with LCHF.

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I fast for 18 hours, eating all my food for the day in a 6 hour window -- currently 1800-2100 calories per day.. versus 2250-2600 on LCHF grazing diet alone. When I fast, I never take a bite of food and just drink water, green tea and black coffee (and sometimes homemade chicken/beef bone broth); I also never drink diet sodas or use any artificial sweetners in anything anymore.

I'm losing more weight on IF + LCHF, and feel less hungry than on LCHF alone, despite the latter having 500 more calories a day to eat; I attribute this to persistent higher insulin levels due to the grazing.

I should say I also dropped my 40-50 units of basal insulin the same time I started intermittent fasting, so less insulin in me is probably helping with the weight loss as well. I was having to inject 40-50 units to keep my blood sugar in a 85-105 range all day. Now with no injections by body is settling on 110-140 mg/dL all day. I suppose as I continue to lose weight I might end up having a fasting blood sugar under 100 versus 120-125 I'm getting now, we'll see.

Great stuff....and thanks for the detail. I'm currently on day 3 of my first 7 day fast. It's going really well, although FBG is only nudging down slowly:)


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Here is a graph showing weight loss on LCHF diet and then LCHF diet + Intermittent fasting. (Using Dr. Jason Fung's intermittent fasting advice.)

Notice the weight loss slope is more steep with the intermittent fasting combined with LCHF.

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I fast for 18 hours, eating all my food for the day in a 6 hour window -- currently 1800-2100 calories per day.. versus 2250-2600 on LCHF grazing diet alone. When I fast, I never take a bite of food and just drink water, green tea and black coffee (and sometimes homemade chicken/beef bone broth); I also never drink diet sodas or use any artificial sweetners in anything anymore.

I'm losing more weight on IF + LCHF, and feel less hungry than on LCHF alone, despite the latter having 500 more calories a day to eat; I attribute this to persistent higher insulin levels due to the grazing.

I should say I also dropped my 40-50 units of basal insulin the same time I started intermittent fasting, so less insulin in me is probably helping with the weight loss as well. I was having to inject 40-50 units to keep my blood sugar in a 85-105 range all day. Now with no injections by body is settling on 110-140 mg/dL all day. I suppose as I continue to lose weight I might end up having a fasting blood sugar under 100 versus 120-125 I'm getting now, we'll see.
Hi

Well done on your results. How amazing. Do you keep a food diary? I wondered what you are typically eating during your 6 hours?
Regards
Debbie
 
Great stuff....and thanks for the detail. I'm
Currently on day 3 of my first 7 day fast. It's going really well, although FBG is only nudging down slowly:)


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Awesome, hang in there, sometimes it takes months to come down to normal. It's making progress which is the awesome thing right? We are REVERSING diabetes.. not curing it.. but sending it in the other direction at least! :)
 
Hi

Well done on your results. How amazing. Do you keep a food diary? I wondered what you are typically eating during your 6 hours?
Regards
Debbie
Yes, I log everything in detail in the iPhone app called MyNetDiary. I log caloric intake along with grams of total carbs, net carbs, protein, fiber. Also I log blood sugar test results. And any insulin injections I did (don't do them now though). Also I log my blood pressure and pulse rate along with any notes. It's quite a handy app.. costs $10 though (probably around 8 quid?)

I'll put something together for you summarizing what I've eaten in the 6 hour window for the past week :)
 
Debbie,

Well I eat any combination of things really. In no particular order:

VEGGIES:
Anything above ground, non-starchy, and usually green. I try to eat a good amount of vegetables each day. I steam for 7 minutes, salt and slather with butter the following: broccoli, asparagus, green beans, brussell sprouts, etc.. I fry asparagus, zucchini, green beans in olive oil. Salad veggies I eat: spinach, green leaf lettuce, arugula, thinly sliced cabbage, bell pepper, cucumber, white onion, green onion, celery, roma tomato (sparingly), -- I dress with homemade Italian: 50% olive oil, 50% white vinegar, salt, pepper, garlic powder to taste (throw in a few crushed red peppers to "kick it up a notch").

DAIRY:
I eat lots of dairy: eggs, many cheeses including cream cheese, habanero cheddar, swiss slices, provolone slices, shredded cheddar, shredded mozzarella, .. well any cheese you can think of that is 1g or less of carbs per serving. :) I stay away from Milk because of the lactose (carbs). I don't eat yogurt, but if I did start doing it (for the probiotics), it'd be active culture only yogurt -- greek style. Which is the lowest in carbs. Yogurt can vary like from 5g carb per serving to over 30g per serving (if sweetened).

SANDWICHES:
I make sandwiches with microwaved processed cheese slices, i.e. Dr. Bernstein's "Cheese Puffs". Throw in 1.5 tbsp of mayo, yellow mustard and lots of roast beef (12 thin slices), 1 slice of swiss or provolone usually. Throw in a few leaves of spinach or lettuce. Rarely, a couple thin slices of tomato. Ham is a good too :) Sometimes I wrap the sandwich in lettuce leave but I like the puffy cheese better :)

MEAT ROLLUPS:
I like taking deli-thin slices of processed meats (usually 4 pieces) and make a bed. And roll up various things inside and eat. Sometimes it's just a slice of swiss or provolone or cheddar. Or maybe line with cream cheese and put a dill pickle spear in it. Or maybe mince some olives (green black kalamata, you name it) and mix with cream cheese, then spread and roll up. Lots of recipes out there .. I need to try many new roll ups. :) Sometimes I throw a few spinach leaves in before rolling up.. they roll up nicely (easier than lettuce). So many to try out.. excited about roll ups lately lol.

NO ARTIFICIAL SWEETNERS:
I stay away from all sweetened & artificially sweetened stuff including beverages, diet sodas, sugar free jello, etc.. because Dr. Jason Fung and others on the Interweb say it raises insulin resistance.. like almost as much as table sugar! I just drink good water, green tea, black tea and occasional homemade chicken broth (especially when I am fasting the 18 hours).

CURED MEATS:
I like lots of cured meats/sausage that are plenty high in fat that have 1g or less of carbs per 1 oz serving.

GREEK SALAD:
I love making greek salads: diced cucumber, diced onion, kalamata olives, & roma tomato. I add in dry oregano, lemon juice and olive oil to taste, along with salt. I throw in some crushed red peppers as well and sometimes garlic powder. Mix that up well then throw it over a bed of spinach or lettuce leaves and top with 2 oz of crumbled full-fat feta cheese.

MEATS:
I eat all meats.. steaks, ground beef, roasts, pork butt, ground pork, whole chickens, tuna, canned corned beef. Oh I try and eat wild caught salmon at least a couple times a week as well due to the omega 3 fatty acids in it.

NUTS:
walnuts, almonds & pistachios (three of the healthiest nuts I hear)

FRUIT:
I only eat berries.. mostly blueberries as of late because they are only a dollar/quid per basket at the moment. But raspberries and blackberries are good. I need to look into other berries as well such as cherries and strawberries.. see how they compare carb and fiber-wise.

OILS:
first cold press extra virgin olive oil, non-refined coconut oil, butter. I stay away from all hydrogenated oils, trans fats, margarine, fake butters, vegetable shortening, hydrogenated lard, seed oils, refined oils.. anything that could contain lots of harmful oxidants due to refining and/or hydrogenations etc..

LEGUMES/BEANS:
Sometimes I throw a couple tablespoons of rinsed black beans in a salad.. I keep it to a minimum. Like I open a small can of them and rinse and throw in a zip lock and throw in the fridge. Then pull out small amounts from it each time for me and my boyfriend.

NO REFINED CARBS OR GRAINS:
I stay away from all refined carbs, sugars, breads, tortillas, crackers, grains, rice, pasta, cereals, cookies, candies, "sugar-free" candies, etc.. They are toxic to me, like poison.. and addictive like crack cocaine. No thanks. I don't even desire them at all now after 45 days. First 25 days or so I ate 1 slice of toast a day with breakfast, but I no longer need that or desire it. Maybe some point later in life when I am no longer severely diabetic, and skinny as a toothpick, I might integrate a small amount of the most healthy carbs one could eat (e.g. beans, oatmeal, etc..). "What about the fiber?", one may ask; well, first off most of the fiber is STRIPPED in the refining process, and well I make up for the fiber by eating plenty of veggies.

DESSERT (JUST BERRIES):
The only dessert I eat are berries occasionally, in moderation. I need to look into cream for them, but do they taste good with unsweetened cream? I always think of whipped cream having sugar in it. I guess I need to try it.

CONDIMENTS: dill pickles, pepperoncini, capers, etc.. Anything low carb & pickled. I like mayo & yellow mustard. I no longer use ketchup because of the sugar.

CABBAGETTI:
Homemade low carb spaghetti sauce with diced veggies & ground beef in it. Ladled over raw uncooked thinly sliced cabbage (which act as a great noodle replacement). Top with grated cheese or parmesan. I also have the spiralizer tool to turn a zucchini into noodles ("zoodles"), which I then lightly fry in olive oil before topping with low carb sauce.

Most of the things I eat are basically like what's in the following photo, but I do love me some processed/cured meats.. charcuterie!

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@JenniferG
Thank you so much for taking the time to put that down.i am mainly on the right track then, but I also incorporate ground flax seed to make some cheese crackers which are lovely with mashed avocado. I also think my mistake has been too much yoghurt/cream, tomatoes, carrots. I am struggling to lose weight but my bg has come down from 8/9 to 7/8 slow progress but at least it's going down. Bloods next week but I'm not optimistic. I have made many mistakes on my Lchf journey in last 3 months. I have tried nut flours and sweeteners to bake things but I think this alongside not working out carb counting properly has stalled me a bit. I'm going to refine my diet a bit more and cut out sweetners and lengthen my fast from 16/8 to 18/6 with 2 days 24 hour fast and see if it helps. I am walking an hour a day but am going to try to do some cardio too. I'm having terrible sleep issues though so I'm so tired. I wake up at 4am and sometimes can go back to sleep at 7 for couple of hours but am finding 4 hours just not enough. I'm not sure if it's because I'm hungry or need a wee! Bg usually 8 in morning - dawn phenom! Thanks again and well done, you are doing great.
Debbie x
 
Debbie,
Thanks for the complement. Are you type 1 or type 2? You don't look like you need to lose any weight from the photo -- look very thin.. I'm 385 lbs (like 28 stone) .
 
Down to 384.2 lbs (27.44 stone). Six pounds lost since last update. Losing about 1 pound (.07 stone) per day for past 8 days or so. May 9th I weighed 422 (30.14 stone), so down 38 pounds (2.71 stone). Weighed 447 (31.93 stone) a few months back, down 63 pounds (4.5 stone) since then.
 
Wow that's amazing so pleased for you. I am around 14.10 but was 14.7 last week - just had a holiday and was a but naughty! I had a few cakes, ice cream, sweets, more booze than normal and couple digestives then a sandwich, ( over a week not all at once) but I paid for it though, I felt quite ill, I'm sure I had carb poisoning lol. On the pic I was just over 14 stone. I am only 5 ft 2in so need to be around 11 stone, even though I should be less than that according to weight loss charts, I would be happy with 11 st. I lost weight for an op 2,years ago then put it back on! At my heaviest I was 15.10 so since Jan lost just over a stone.

I am hopeful if I work at it I can get my bg down and lose weight under Lchf . I love these crackers made with flax and they are great for vitamins and fibre which is good for my digestion as even with veg and lots of water it can slow with protein. They good with peanut butter, avocado or cream cheese.

http://www.diabeticgoodbaking.com/2013/06/flax-seed-crackers.html
 
Debbie,

Well I eat any combination of things really. In no particular order:

VEGGIES:
Anything above ground, non-starchy, and usually green. I try to eat a good amount of vegetables each day. I steam for 7 minutes, salt and slather with butter the following: broccoli, asparagus, green beans, brussell sprouts, etc.. I fry asparagus, zucchini, green beans in olive oil. Salad veggies I eat: spinach, green leaf lettuce, arugula, thinly sliced cabbage, bell pepper, cucumber, white onion, green onion, celery, roma tomato (sparingly), -- I dress with homemade Italian: 50% olive oil, 50% white vinegar, salt, pepper, garlic powder to taste (throw in a few crushed red peppers to "kick it up a notch").

DAIRY:
I eat lots of dairy: eggs, many cheeses including cream cheese, habanero cheddar, swiss slices, provolone slices, shredded cheddar, shredded mozzarella, .. well any cheese you can think of that is 1g or less of carbs per serving. :) I stay away from Milk because of the lactose (carbs). I don't eat yogurt, but if I did start doing it (for the probiotics), it'd be active culture only yogurt -- greek style. Which is the lowest in carbs. Yogurt can vary like from 5g carb per serving to over 30g per serving (if sweetened).

SANDWICHES:
I make sandwiches with microwaved processed cheese slices, i.e. Dr. Bernstein's "Cheese Puffs". Throw in 1.5 tbsp of mayo, yellow mustard and lots of roast beef (12 thin slices), 1 slice of swiss or provolone usually. Throw in a few leaves of spinach or lettuce. Rarely, a couple thin slices of tomato. Ham is a good too :) Sometimes I wrap the sandwich in lettuce leave but I like the puffy cheese better :)

MEAT ROLLUPS:
I like taking deli-thin slices of processed meats (usually 4 pieces) and make a bed. And roll up various things inside and eat. Sometimes it's just a slice of swiss or provolone or cheddar. Or maybe line with cream cheese and put a dill pickle spear in it. Or maybe mince some olives (green black kalamata, you name it) and mix with cream cheese, then spread and roll up. Lots of recipes out there .. I need to try many new roll ups. :) Sometimes I throw a few spinach leaves in before rolling up.. they roll up nicely (easier than lettuce). So many to try out.. excited about roll ups lately lol.

NO ARTIFICIAL SWEETNERS:
I stay away from all sweetened & artificially sweetened stuff including beverages, diet sodas, sugar free jello, etc.. because Dr. Jason Fung and others on the Interweb say it raises insulin resistance.. like almost as much as table sugar! I just drink good water, green tea, black tea and occasional homemade chicken broth (especially when I am fasting the 18 hours).

CURED MEATS:
I like lots of cured meats/sausage that are plenty high in fat that have 1g or less of carbs per 1 oz serving.

GREEK SALAD:
I love making greek salads: diced cucumber, diced onion, kalamata olives, & roma tomato. I add in dry oregano, lemon juice and olive oil to taste, along with salt. I throw in some crushed red peppers as well and sometimes garlic powder. Mix that up well then throw it over a bed of spinach or lettuce leaves and top with 2 oz of crumbled full-fat feta cheese.

MEATS:
I eat all meats.. steaks, ground beef, roasts, pork butt, ground pork, whole chickens, tuna, canned corned beef. Oh I try and eat wild caught salmon at least a couple times a week as well due to the omega 3 fatty acids in it.

NUTS:
walnuts, almonds & pistachios (three of the healthiest nuts I hear)

FRUIT:
I only eat berries.. mostly blueberries as of late because they are only a dollar/quid per basket at the moment. But raspberries and blackberries are good. I need to look into other berries as well such as cherries and strawberries.. see how they compare carb and fiber-wise.

OILS:
first cold press extra virgin olive oil, non-refined coconut oil, butter. I stay away from all hydrogenated oils, trans fats, margarine, fake butters, vegetable shortening, hydrogenated lard, seed oils, refined oils.. anything that could contain lots of harmful oxidants due to refining and/or hydrogenations etc..

LEGUMES/BEANS:
Sometimes I throw a couple tablespoons of rinsed black beans in a salad.. I keep it to a minimum. Like I open a small can of them and rinse and throw in a zip lock and throw in the fridge. Then pull out small amounts from it each time for me and my boyfriend.

NO REFINED CARBS OR GRAINS:
I stay away from all refined carbs, sugars, breads, tortillas, crackers, grains, rice, pasta, cereals, cookies, candies, "sugar-free" candies, etc.. They are toxic to me, like poison.. and addictive like crack cocaine. No thanks. I don't even desire them at all now after 45 days. First 25 days or so I ate 1 slice of toast a day with breakfast, but I no longer need that or desire it. Maybe some point later in life when I am no longer severely diabetic, and skinny as a toothpick, I might integrate a small amount of the most healthy carbs one could eat (e.g. beans, oatmeal, etc..). "What about the fiber?", one may ask; well, first off most of the fiber is STRIPPED in the refining process, and well I make up for the fiber by eating plenty of veggies.

DESSERT (JUST BERRIES):
The only dessert I eat are berries occasionally, in moderation. I need to look into cream for them, but do they taste good with unsweetened cream? I always think of whipped cream having sugar in it. I guess I need to try it.

CONDIMENTS: dill pickles, pepperoncini, capers, etc.. Anything low carb & pickled. I like mayo & yellow mustard. I no longer use ketchup because of the sugar.

CABBAGETTI:
Homemade low carb spaghetti sauce with diced veggies & ground beef in it. Ladled over raw uncooked thinly sliced cabbage (which act as a great noodle replacement). Top with grated cheese or parmesan. I also have the spiralizer tool to turn a zucchini into noodles ("zoodles"), which I then lightly fry in olive oil before topping with low carb sauce.

Most of the things I eat are basically like what's in the following photo, but I do love me some processed/cured meats.. charcuterie!

original
@Jules71823
See above
 
Wow those crackers do look delicious and low carb :) Gonna try them thanks!

By the way, I was losing like 3 pounds a week on 2600 calories a day but then switched to 2000 calories a day but only eating 2 meals a day in 6 hour window and weight is just pouring off. The long breaks from eating (18 hours in my case) really help reduce insulin resistance and the weight just pours off :)
 
Wow those crackers do look delicious and low carb :) Gonna try them thanks!

By the way, I was losing like 3 pounds a week on 2600 calories a day but then switched to 2000 calories a day but only eating 2 meals a day in 6 hour window and weight is just pouring off. The long breaks from eating (18 hours in my case) really help reduce insulin resistance and the weight just pours off :)

The diabeticgoodbaking site has some really good recipes. I have even made ice cream and coconut macaroons. Apparently xylitol is ok as a sweetner as it doesn't affect Bg. I am not losing much yet but at least my no's are coming down. Yesterday I had 5.6 before Eve meal then before bed 6.1 which is really pleasing as last Hba was 8.6 so I'm hoping I am finally getting there. I am starting fasting for bit longer today.
All the best
Debbie x
 
Glad your numbers are coming down! I have been reading stuff that artificial sweetners causes increase in insulin. So I quit consuming them about 4 days ago. I missed them for the first two days, not so much now :)

Can't believe I just lost another 1.2 pounds (.09 stone) since yesterday.
 
Glad your numbers are coming down! I have been reading stuff that artificial sweetners causes increase in insulin. So I quit consuming them about 4 days ago. I missed them for the first two days, not so much now :)

Can't believe I just lost another 1.2 pounds (.09 stone) since yesterday.

That's correct and they affect but microbiology and still feed the craving centre in your brain...best alrou for to leave them alone:)


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@KevinPotts
Hi Kevin

Do you include xylitol in that? I understood that it was ok, have I got that wrong do you know?

Debbie

Sorry Debbie, I do not have enough knowledge to narrow it down to specific drugs. There is a great video interview somewhere on here with Prof Panda and this amazing PhD interviewer that explains it all in details

I'll try and remember the thread:)


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Sorry Debbie, I do not have enough knowledge to narrow it down to specific drugs. There is a great video interview somewhere on here with Prof Panda and this amazing PhD interviewer that explains it all in details

I'll try and remember the thread:)


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Thanks Kevin I would appreciate it. Do you eat any flax or chia or coco powder or peanut butter? I get a bit confused sometimes about what's ok. I am sitting here with my cider vinegar and water trying to do what's best!
 
When not fasting I do eat 1 x tablesp milled flax 1 x milled chia each morning with 25g Clean Lean Protein and 10g Good Green Stuff

I also often add cocoa nibs and goji berries, all bought in bulk from Amszon to save cash.


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Your guy's legs ever feel tight leg muscles after like 8 days of intermittent fasting? Like the entire legs on both sides are tightened up. I'm not burning muscle right? I weigh in high 20's (stone) and eat lots of protein but only in a 6 hour window. I read to get some Magnesium and have been taking those.. I think it's helping a little. Have been on LCHF diet for 50 days, and LCHF 18:6 intermittent fasting for past 15 days.

I'll see doc this coming Thursday for complete blood tests checking out my thyroid, liver function, lipase, lipids, vitamin levels (including magnesium, potassium), sodium etc.. I'll let you know my new A1C. My average blood sugar on the meter for past 2 months is about 6.38 mmol/mL (115 mg/dL). Don't know how many of the blood cells before the past 2 months is going to show up in the test, but A1C two months ago was 8.6. I'd be happy with A1C of 6 or better (not bad improvement for two months) :)
 
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