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Type 2 Is type 2 an autoimmune symptom too?

What made the Catholic church decide on Latin as the language for the Mass is that it is as a dead language unchanged by modern parlance or concepts this of course is untrue of text books which constantly change in order to keep up with increased knowledge gained from research this is why most of the text books I bought for my degree course have been updated and rewritten and why they were not written in Latin modern languages deal in modern concepts Latin cannot.
 
JohnEGreen said:
What made the Catholic church decide on Latin as the language for the Mass is that it is as a dead language unchanged by modern parlance or concepts this of course is untrue of text books which constantly change in order to keep up with increased knowledge gained from research this is why most of the text books I bought for my degree course have been updated and rewritten and why they were not written in Latin modern languages deal in modern concepts Latin cannot.
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Your English language has internalised all the Latin language with the English suffix.
This is the reason why the English vocabulary is big
 
ickihun said:
Research outside of uk are saying just remission Kevin. Uk's history of these ops are not fully documented, only recently. So short-term good hba1c's.
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I think we mean the same thing:)

The NHS nomenclature for remission is "resolved" which I've seen featured in a pic of medical papers on this forum, but in essence all its saying is..."your numbers are non-diabetic, but keep living correctly or they will become diabetic again" :)


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@ickihun

I am sorry to read about your health problems.
The journals on the internet do not cost money, but sometime this text give the people the false hope. On the internet are there some sites with a serious text, but it cost 30$ /day to read them.
It is to expensive and I prefer to by the books.
About your problems with obesity, the science know that is a disorder with multiple causes. But many ignorant people think it is because people eat to much food. The obesity is a very interesting area of the medical science. Neuro-hormonal disorder's are much complicated. It is a job for a specialist's. By the way your economy , you can always borrow the medical books from the library.
 
luna50 said:
I am sorry to disappoint you, but in all the world there are many thousand of research workers who works to solve DM problem, but the Latin sentence say: "Per aspera ad astra" ( The way to the stars is very long).
You can not help people with T2DM to tell them a falsity. To tell the people that they can reverse a diabetes is to give to them a bad conscience. No one can reverse T2DM if they eat a dog diet. Look at this individual off @NoCrbs4Me. He is not aware about how the people get the diagnose T2DM.
He has been perhaps lucky if his T2DM has been diagnosed on a very onset. Then for a short period of time he can control T2DM with diet and exercise, but the DM say to him "You can go forward, but I can catch you".
People get this diagnose in connection with another diseases as a consequence off T2DM. People get a Cardiovascular problems, retinopathies, nephropathies, neuropathies and another problems.
I do not understand why on the internet is accepted to bring air balloon's before the proof is in the place.
My opinion is the internet is not a place where people can acquire a knowledge. Look on the medical faculties. They do not get the knowledge from the internet,. but from the serious books.
The only correct manner to treat the T2DM is to follow the recommendations from the health authorities. I know, some people employed by this authorities are not serious, but there are a doctors who do there job properly. Your hope and my to get an answer for your problem say the Latin sentence:
Latin: "Nichil vulgo insertius" on English: "There is nothing so unrealiable as the hope is".

Have a nice day
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Following the "only correct" recommendations has you on insulin and 4 other meds. You consider this successful? Please tell us all in what way this is a success compared to my results? My opinion is that someone with such poor results as you have shouldn't be giving advice.

I ignored the health authorities and am now on no meds and have normal blood glucose levels - yet you claim type 2 is progressive. Please explain why my type 2 has not progressed and has actually reversed, which you claim is not possible. It seems you don't understand type 2 diabetes very well.

It appears that you would prefer to be on 5 meds and in poor health than consider the possibility that you are wrong to believe in the health authorities' recommendations.
 
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I don't have much medical knowledge, all I know is that I was on medication for type 2 diabetes for TEN YEARS with my HbA1c getting steadily higher and when I lost weight, started following lchf way of eating and increased the amount of exercise I did my GP took me off of my diabetes meds because I had 2 consecutive normal range HbA1c tests. My bloods remain in the normal range if I eat low carb and exercise, they can fluctuate if I stop doing either of these things. Oh yes, and I have another inflammatory chronic condition which means I can't digest fruit and vegetables or anything high fibre. If I can do it? ??
 
KevinPotts said:
I think we mean the same thing:)

The NHS nomenclature for remission is "resolved" which I've seen featured in a pic of medical papers on this forum, but in essence all its saying is..."your numbers are non-diabetic, but keep living correctly or they will become diabetic again" :)


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They live off ice cube portions of food.
Baby/Toddler portion sizes.
How can that be sustainable for an adult? Oh and multivitamins and some iron tablets too. Starvation. Some have starved to death, in fear of eating. Not 100% safe.
 
I need to start a new thread to ask..... would you risk death to get type2 into remission?
So wrong, in so many ways. Society doesn't help either.
 
NoCrbs4Me said:
My understanding is that the goal of bariatric surgery is weight loss. Reversal of type 2 is just a bonus.
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Yes, your right @NoCrbs4Me .
With regards to no carbs I think the nhs dieticians are slowly getting the message. Mine has backed down to 120g carbs from carbs in every meal. They have been alerted to fat not being an enemy but some are half hearted.
I have to do 20g carb to have any affect on my diabetes which interfers with my other conditions so it's fragile.
I too can only tolerate a few vegtables, worse on metformin.
If no veg or carbs, is your diet just meat and good fats?
 
ickihun said:
Yes, your right @NoCrbs4Me .
With regards to no carbs I think the nhs dieticians are slowly getting the message. Mine has backed down to 120g carbs from carbs in every meal. They have been alerted to fat not being an enemy but some are half hearted.
I have to do 20g carb to have any affect on my diabetes which interfers with my other conditions so it's fragile.
I too can only tolerate a few vegtables, worse on metformin.
If no veg or carbs, is your diet just meat and good fats?
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Just meat (mostly beef), eggs, and some cheese.
 
@ickihun

I am sorry to read about your health problems.
The journals on the internet do not cost money, but sometime this text give the people the false hope. On the internet are there some sites with a serious text, but it cost 30$ /day to read them.

It is to expensive and I prefer to by the books.

About your problems with obesity, the science know that is a disorder with multiple causes. But many ignorant people think it is because people eat to much food. The obesity is a very interesting area of the medical science. Neuro-hormonal disorder's are much complicated. It is a job for a specialist's. By the way your economy , you can always borrow the medical books from the library.
 
luna50 said:
@ickihun
This thread is not about your dog food or my T2DM medication.
My opinion is you are like a gramophone plate running in one groove.
You do not know absolutely nothing about T2DM. I do not understand who give to you this "like's"
To tell people they can reverse the diabetes it is a LIE.
The reason why your BG is low is because you do not eat carbohydrates. This is a logic for the cage chickens. You are ignorant about the consequences of your dog diet ( My dog eat only meat, eggs, and some cheese) . This consequences are Atherosclerosis, Cardiovascular problems, Kidney (Renal) problems and Colon Cancer. The progression of your DM is inside in your body and you do not feel it until one day the complications come on the surface.
I can write to you from now to the next year and you will nothing understand. You can eat your dog food and let me be free from you. It is your choice and I will nothing do about that.
Your question about my use of insulin and different medication has been answered to you many time, but you do not understand that. It makes no sense to give you my answer.
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You really don't know much about diabetes. You haven't provided an adequate answer as to why you think being on insulin and 4 different meds shows that you are successful with treating your diabetes. I no longer have diabetes and likewise many on this forum have gone from having type 2 diabetes, high blood glucose, and on meds to having normal blood glucose levels and being on no meds simply by eating a lower amount of carbohydrate. I am way healthier than you are, so why should I or anyone else listen to your terrible advice? You followed your advice and are now very unhealthy. Perhaps you should consider following the advice of people (not just me) on this forum who have reversed their type 2 diabetes and are now much healthier than you.
 
There is a phase often used on other forums I have frequented.

Don't feed the troll.

Unfortunately members of this forum are too generous.


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http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/autoimmune-diseases
So to date here is the medical description of an autoimmune disease.

Has the list always been there in full. Is any missing or any not discovered yet?

Luckily medicine is a science so always more being discovered.
I won't be surprised if my aliments over the years stem from diabetes or another disease not characterised. It's not that I don't accept type 2 but I know compared to other type 2s I constantly add weight with my ailments even without injections of extra insulin. My body wants to add weight even when my food intake is the same or less. I can shock my system with starvation but once not eating nothing or very very little my body adds weight again.
My body cannot loose weight unless a shock is involved but only a temporary loss.
Sound familiar?
 
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