I am only quoting the NICE guidlines. When you quote me you are quoting them. I don't think I have misunderstood the Eatwell Guide. If I have misunderstood the random snack or icecream outside dinner and lunch then you are unfamiliar with the habits of many of us type 2's who cannot indulge in that kind of eating
I am Type 2 too. And I am not an English native speaker so I know that sometimes I can be misunderstood.
Shooting at NICE guidelines or the Eatwell plate when a lot of people, even who, like me has Type 2 diabetes, doesn't follow it and eat worse with more calorie intake than the necessary, because is misinformed, isn't aware due the lack of information from their GP, is counter productive.
The problem from what I can see is that a lot of industrial foods are pictured as wealthy when they are actually not and unfortunately are proposed from expert.
Weetabix and skimmed yoghurt with fruit and sugar, for instance.
LCHF is a possible diet for people with diabetes for losing weight in the Italian guidelines, and MEditerranean too, similar wordings are used in Canadian guidelines, so I'll be unsurprised if the new guidelines will contain these principles.