Coronavirus and diabetes

[Ellenor2000]

@Sophzzz - I read this, a few days ago, on another forum. The author is a retired UK GP.

There are some interesting points in there, in my view.

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Kinda looks like a blue version of the DCUK site. Is it DOUK (the .org one)?

 

[JohnEGreen]

Worth mentioning that, from memory, @Tophat1900 takes immunosuppressive drugs due to an organ transplant. If this is the case then he probably needs to be a bit more vigilant than most when it comes to potential infections.

I've been on prednisolone for about twenty years and also have to be very careful about infections but non the less normal precautions are pretty much ineffective when it comes to viral infections especially when airborne pathogens are involved the situation is very scary. One thing is to remember that normal hand sanitisers are ineffective as they are only OK where bacteria are concerned what is required are hand disinfectants that can cope with viruses.

 

[Stuarthmfc]

My first post on here, I have been like the original poster over this on going news, and this thread is very helpful! I’ve been following the news story since January and it has actually lead to me being diagnosed with a general anxiety disorder. I’m 29 and have good control over my diabetes, it’s just has been said, when the news constantly highlights it’s ‘ long term conditions like diabetes’ and then goes on about the death toll. It’s difficult not to panic and to think rationally with all this but this information on this thread definitely helps!

 

[Tophat1900]

Worth mentioning that, from memory, @Tophat1900 takes immunosuppressive drugs due to an organ transplant. If this is the case then he probably needs to be a bit more vigilant than most when it comes to potential infections.

Yes, have taken prednesalone on and off most of my life, (due to cystic fibrosis)and have taken it everyday for the last 23 years along with two other immunosuppresive drugs (was on 4 altogether for a long time). I haven't had a cold for about the last 10 years, so I'll let that result stand for what I do. Nothing is going to be perfect. Maybe what I do is useless, maybe not, but I have everything to lose if I'm not careful.

 

[Penquin47210]

I've been on prednisolone for about twenty years and also have to be very careful about infections but non the less normal precautions are pretty much ineffective when it comes to viral infections especially when airborne pathogens are involved the situation is very scary. One thing is to remember that normal hand sanitisers are ineffective as they are only OK where bacteria are concerned what is required are hand disinfectants that can cope with viruses.

Hand sterilisers are effective against virus particles on skin If and ONLY IF they contain >60% ethanol (alcohol). Check before buying, if indeed you can buy as they are now VERY difficult to source within the UK. NONE of the Emergency Supplies companies, such as SPS or SJA Supplies have any in stock.

Avoid touching surfaces such as hand rails in public IF POSSIBLE, use your elbow to open doors if you can (impossible to lock many public toilet doors WITHOUT using hand though - so if you can, pull a pullover sleeve, or a jacket sleeve over hand rather than using bare skin).

Frequent hand washing with soap and water is the best cleanser - ideally HOT water and for AT LEAST 20 seconds. This should be done before preparing food, before eating, after using the toilet and after skin to skin contact if possible. Cough or sneeze into a tissue and then bin it, or into the crook of the elbow to prevent droplet infection reaching out from YOU. If you see others NOT doing that try to stay at least 2m away from them and wash as soon as possible if any risk of contamination.

Those are a few basic personal safety points, the virus IS spreading so we all have a responsibility to reduce it's spread as much as possible. If you have any "flu like" symptoms; raised body temperature, aches and pains, cough or sniffles OTHER THAN YOUR NORMAL SELF, self isolate and use the 111 telephone service to talk to professionals. They will alert those needed to eg test you for the CoVid19 virus DNA in YOUR tissue fluid. It may take 5 days before any symptoms appear and you are infectious and spreading the disease during that time..

In the young and healthy it is generally mild, in those with underlying chronic diseases including diabetes, and lung problems particularly, or compromised immune response systems the risk is greater and the risk increases with age.

So far, the outbreak in the UK is exactly following the exponential growth curve that would be expected with a doubling in numbers every five days due to the way that viruses actually work.

 

[JohnEGreen]

Hand sterilisers are effective against virus particles on skin If and ONLY IF they contain >60% ethanol (alcohol). Check before buying, if indeed you can buy as they are now VERY difficult to source within the UK. NONE of the Emergency Supplies companies, such as SPS or SJA Supplies have any in stock.

Avoid touching surfaces such as hand rails in public IF POSSIBLE, use your elbow to open doors if you can (impossible to lock many public toilet doors WITHOUT using hand though - so if you can, pull a pullover sleeve, or a jacket sleeve over hand rather than using bare skin).

Frequent hand washing with soap and water is the best cleanser - ideally HOT water and for AT LEAST 20 seconds. This should be done before preparing food, before eating, after using the toilet and after skin to skin contact if possible. Cough or sneeze into a tissue and then bin it, or into the crook of the elbow to prevent droplet infection reaching out from YOU. If you see others NOT doing that try to stay at least 2m away from them and wash as soon as possible if any risk of contamination.

Those are a few basic personal safety points, the virus IS spreading so we all have a responsibility to reduce it's spread as much as possible. If you have any "flu like" symptoms; raised body temperature, aches and pains, cough or sniffles OTHER THAN YOUR NORMAL SELF, self isolate and use the 111 telephone service to talk to professionals. They will alert those needed to eg test you for the CoVid19 virus DNA in YOUR tissue fluid. It may take 5 days before any symptoms appear and you are infectious and spreading the disease during that time..

In the young and healthy it is generally mild, in those with underlying chronic diseases including diabetes, and lung problems particularly, or compromised immune response systems the risk is greater and the risk increases with age.

So far, the outbreak in the UK is exactly following the exponential growth curve that would be expected with a doubling in numbers every five days due to the way that viruses actually work.

"Both sanitizers and disinfectants must be tested against specific germs. Chemical labels must list out each of these germs individually. One disinfectant could kill germs X and Y while another disinfectant might kill germs Y and Z. It’s important to understand that a single sanitizer or disinfectant will not kill all microorganisms, and to know which germs your products work against. Sanitizers are certified for bacteria only, while disinfectants can also be certified to kill viruses, mold, mildew, and fungi."

https://www.nycoproducts.com/resour...ference-between-sanitizers-and-disinfectants/

 

[Sophzzz]

I know I might be a bit late to reply, but you should seek help regarding your anxieties.

Stress can be especially detrimental to those with autoimmune diseases - like type 1 diabetes. It sounds like all these fears related to your health are causing you severe stress.

It might help you to seek specialist help and therapy to try and deal with anxiety first and foremost.

Sorry I’m not sure why I’ve only just seen all the reply’s!!!
I’m currently doing CBT, and I was on medication for the anxiety but ended up in a&e because of the side effects, it’s scared me to try anything else now though as it felt like I was going to die, I’ve read books, watched other people’s success story’s. I just feel like I’m battling with my own head! One part tells me everything’s okay the other part just goes crazy and tells me to panic! I’m also trying mindfulness, in willing to try whatever it takes to make me better! Thankyou for your reply! Hopefully I’ll find something that works!