Cheers Eddie - it's a non ending journey of education this T2 malarkey. Nope Bp good - Hba1c = 34 everything else ticking along - DN said that she's would sign me off as non diabetic but not yet as concerned about urine ACR and that ACE inhibitors were 1st line of defence - so it would be for nepthrorathy only which to my mind is a bit of an overkill if I can control by a controlled diet but I have no idea how the 3.7 converts to damaged kidneys unless 3.7 is 37 - that would seem about right?Ramipril and other ACE Inhibitors are used for hypertension, heart failure and diabetic nephropathy. If you're on it for high BP then your on it for that alone.