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Yes, that indeed is an important challenge to make of this study that isn't answered. What would then be the 'crux' of the issue with lean T2's. We would agree on that point. But we also can't ignore the fact that this 'very lo calories' approach DID achieve the ends reported; lower A1c that...

I'm not the least bit impressed by the hype. But I am compelled by the 'results' and the 'science'. I agree we don't know enough from this study to see its conclusions as a smoking gun for diabetes reversal. We're on the same page there. We'll see what the future holds. And as long as a person...

Not at all. Not the same at all. The 'lack' of any other study with this 'study focus' is EXACTLY what makes the findings so compelling. It has NEVER been studied (according to my personal research over the last two years, which is a extensive but not exhaustive - I'll grant you) -- and that...

Here! Here!, Pixor. Well said! :) We'll all be waiting with 'baited breath' to hear your results. Can you start a thread in the T2 Diabetes Subforum or the DIET forum called 'my journey on this new 600kcal diet' or something like that so we can follow your progress. It will be great to see you...

What you state there, CMichael is an important caveat. It's just that before this study ANY REVERSAL of ANY KIND has never been seen. In this study - the 'non return' of the fat around the liver and pancreas and the steadyness of the HBA1c even after weight gain happened is 'new'. I also...

:lol: :lol: :lol: Fair enough!! You made me laugh there, Pianoman.. I have agreed since the beginning that this is a small trial. There are three threads here discussing it concurrently - so I fear doing more discussing in the poll thread here. But -- what has 'never been found' in ANY...

I'm sorry, Ka-Mon.. I may have entirely misunderstood your original post to me. Already, in only 40 or so posts, I've been dealing with a couple of 'seeming' agenda-driven members that have 'jumped on me' without a provocation that I can recognize on my part -- -- what a welcome.. Most people...

6.6 for me today.. A little frustrated - but okay.. Morning all - and happy Sunday!

What it claims as it's reason for existence is entirely beside the point as 'sprouted bread products' by other companies also exist. We need to be careful not to 'lose the forest for the trees' here. Just Google 'sprouted bread' and then we'll be 'looking at the trees' of the issue of 'sprouted...

5.5 is pretty good, Matt and likely wouldn't be a high enough blood glucose reading for your to feel tired and fuzzy, etc. Were you feeling tired and fuzzy when you took THAT particular reading? Next time you're feeling the unwanted symptoms - test immediately. Don't forget to always wash your...

Actually the science behind the methodology, from my reading, is very sound! Most 'sound' research on diabetes reversal in 15 years. And the results are clear and consistent. But 'ends' don't always justify the means. It's the 'means' in this particular 'human experiment' that question. You can...

Your number 1 goal in getting back to the 'healthy feeling again' is to learn to get a drop of blood large enough to register the meter successfully 4-8 times a day. Only then can we move to step 2, my friend. Practice until it works perfectly. Make sure you're only pricking the 'sides' of your...

Ah. Okay. Dr Graveline is SpaceDoc.. Here's an article that speaks more to my point: http://www.webmd.com/cholesterol-manage ... blood-test Pertinent clip: WebMD is usually a solid source on these issue and use peer-reviewed studies to back their conclusions.

AH!! I see the 'imprecise nature' of my statement. Thanks Viv and Pianoman.. I have edited my post to read..

You have to be careful what you read in 'blogs'. There are usually 'agendas'. That's the bread. He makes no scientific statements. It's a 'spouted bread' product. I buy it for THAT aspect - not anything to do with any Christian underpinnings. There are other 'sprouted' bread products out there...

Hi Matt, and welcome to the club no one wants to be a member of. Believe it or not - you CAN deal with this disease and keep it under control so it doesn't control you. It will require some changes in the way you 'do life' with regard to eating. But at 21 - you're so young and though changing...

There is nothing in the prose of my statement that implies, even remotely, 'everyone'. You've simply misread. Since that's the case - then we agree: that for SOME people - the side effects can be permanent IF they don't come off the drug quickly after the symptoms appear. That's what I believe...

Here's one Doctor who speaks of the chemical aspects of why the damage can be permanent. http://www.spacedoc.com/statins_permane ... fects.html

I'm only talking about 'some' people. In this case my father. A wonderful fellow at another forum I read posted a lot of this 'proof' you ask for. I'm recalling his data. I'll go look for that data. It does indeed deserve some 'backing up' - to be sure. Good challenge.

And do the 'phytates' being neutralised mean that it's better for us in terms of this 'letting the dough sit overnight' that's the focus of this thread? Or is that a different process? The other problem here is that most doctors don't recognize the differing ways Celiac's presents based on age...