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But we haven;t "cut back on fat" as the article attests! This is one paper by what i bet you will find are funded by the animal industry.

They are peer reviewed double blind placebo controlled studies. Are your studies scientifically rigourous?

Oh and modern nutritional science is not confused about what is a healthy diet at all. Reductionist science has tried to boil it down to individual nutrients etc. but the consensus is definitely the more fruits and vegetables the better.

I agree with you that the current government dietary guidelines don't go far enough. They recommend 70g fat for example for an average women or 32% calories from fat, far far too high.

But fat intake in people's diet has been growing every year for the past 50yrs so regardless of these guidelines our fat intake has continued to rise. I agree that processed foods can help cause obesity because they are so calorifically dense but heart disease is on the rise year after year...

I don't really care what our ancestors were or weren't doing. They were trying to survive day to day we are trying to live long happy lives and we have modern science to help up determine what nutrition is best for us now.

So as a policy on this forum you recommend low carb as a treatment for diabetes?

Sorry why are they silly? He explains the results of real scientific studies often double blind controlled studies. Why is that silly? Have you actually watched any of them? I think you just love meat and you have fitted the evidence to suit that preference.

S And so how do you explain the ever increasing rates of obesity, T2 diabetes, CHD and stroke?

http://nutritionfacts.org/2014/12/16/comparing-vegans-arteries-to-runners/ http://nutritionfacts.org/video/arteries-of-vegans-vs-runners/ http://nutritionfacts.org/video/harvards-meat-and-mortality-studies/ http://nutritionfacts.org/video/the-saturated-fat-studies-set-up-to-fail/

Ok i take your point, i did come out all guns blazing and i apologise for that. I care, i really do, and it isn't that i haven't got my own experiences but as a T1 it just seems to me that T2s have so much more control and power over their destiny and i don't want people to waste that, that's all.

Erm yes that was proven by science many decades ago.

Ok i realise that i am not popular and haven't been all that constructive but i still don't think the definition of what people says is "working" is really all that great. T2 diabetes is a choice, it is not your fate it is in your hands and all i want to do is let people see that there is an...

So are you saying it is the policy of this forum to discourage the intake of carbs?

This may be a worrying sign of an underlying condition i am afraid. Yes it could be psychological but it could also be early vascular problems. http://nutritionfacts.org/video/survival-of-the-firmest-erectile-dysfunction-and-death/

Well debate clearly isn't allowed on this forum. All you can do is talk about how wonderful low carb high fat diets are it seems.

http://nutritionfacts.org/video/paleo-diets-may-negate-benefits-of-exercise/

Have you really reversed your diabetes? What happens when you eat a decent amount of carbs i.e. 100g?

http://nutritionfacts.org/video/the-problem-with-the-paleo-diet-argument/