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obviously both of you do not know of dr.hyman and his work ---and saying better to have real food?? some of us can't get j arti--etc..this starch from spuds can't get more real then that--holland and barret sell a german pot starch-very cheaply-and of course don't over do it---who said one...

all seem to be about some protein, and a bit of carb--wonder which is doing the most good...

may i suggest that all posters with the similar symptoms--get the thyroid checked and certainly check out thyroid sites as dry skin flaky skin acne around mouth area spots etc.. point to thyroid issues--even diabetes itself.. many good docs on you tube explain in detail, some from usa and some...

having suffered from extremely dry flaky skin for about two years now & having diabetes then diagnosed hypothyroid with all the thyroid symptoms rearing there ugly head--after much research the diabetic / hypothyroid endo link--gives the skin all sorts of problems, i would have your thyroid...

....what came first the chicken or the egg? if excess weight esp belly fat helps to make us insulin resistant, and yet , if insulin is known to make us gain weight. then logically, to me at least-shouldn't less insulin help to lose weight/belly fat etc. and make us less insulin resistant thereby...

"I also get rashes now, with hard patches and my tummy feels like a pin cushion and itches. I change the injection site every time."...my hard patches eased, when i went to the thinnest needle point.

i have been told that there is this connection of pcos, hysterectomy=hormonal changes,thyroid,adrenals,diabetes, testosterone & especially insulin resistance... see dr. barry Durrant-Peatfield's revised book, as he explains the varied hormonal issues etc.etc. hope this helps a bit...

i am thinking i may have confused my original question by throwing in the glucose issue, what i really was after was --if we are insulin resistant, is their logic in injecting even more insulin into our bodies, perhaps this is a bit of a dyslectic issue for me but it doesn't make sense to me...

yes yes that is exactly what i meant--too much insulin in the body from insulin resistance & then told to inject more insulin to get glucose readings down --so is it better to not add extra insulin by needle, when one is not taking up the insulin that we produce in our bodies in the first...

which is worse internally; to have to much- glucose running amok or to much insulin running amok... is one worse than the other?

sandysan, have you heard about--natural desiccated thyroid NDT rather than levothyroxine levo only has T4 and we need T4 T3 T2 T1 calcitonin.. etc. etc. to have a fully functioning thyroid & to alleviate all our horrible symptoms you might want to check out these links ----...

so, if i follow this information as to having to much glucose being produced from wherever,ingested food or the liver etc. then i must ask-if i may--which is worse to have to much- glucose running amok or to much insulin running amok... is one worse than the other? and wouldn't it be preferable...

ME TOO... fried my poor brain... so since it sounds like the opposite to what others have said --i will just have to carry on & reduce my lantus and con't lo carb get metabolism running so can exercise and then see the results.... if getting rid of lantus and doing all the above as well shows no...

thanks andy,good to hear i sort of got it right, i will be gradually come off the 24 hour lantus and perhaps increase the metformin to 4 pills not just the two, and also working on the lo-carbing,i always feel so much better when i eat smaller amounts and more protein, the weight will hopefully...

hi and thanks daibell, yes overweight and struggling to get it down as thyroid isn't co-operating & working hard at lo-carbing thank you sky....

the rationale for prescribing the lantus, was because metformin and diet failed to get my readings low enough, but i was told i was insulin resistant awhile back so then i am asking ---does it make logical sense to prescribe even more insulin --thereby giving even more insulin to be resistant...

just curious- wasn't it on this very forum that diabetes uk.. posted a sensational statement that some diabetics had been ( cured ) by following the newcastle study diet where the director talked reversal--- i believe that means a cure in explicit terms, so i guess we can assume your doc who...

this goes totally against* our own DR.JOHN BRIFFA who personally i would rely on for the most up to date nutritional advice for wellbeing...