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<blockquote data-quote="NewdestinyX" data-source="post: 203467" data-attributes="member: 35544"><p><strong>Re: A comparison of the guidelines for control; NICE, ADA, e</strong></p><p></p><p> There's only a 'seeming' inconsistency when you trying an contrast things that aren't 'opposites' in any way. My entire journey with D to this point has been EXACTLY what I prescribe to a newbie: moderation and time taking. I heard all the 'drop the numbers to normal immediately' mantra, what I term 'scare tactics' and it all it did was 'scare me'. My numbers didn't come down on ultra lo carb OR Metformin which made me so sick. I was trying to increase exercise but at such a lo carb level I had no energy and felt sick all the time even WELL AFTER the so called 'induction period'. My 'induction flu' never went away. So I said 'STOP'.. There has to be a better way. And there WAS indeed a 'better way' -- for me, that is.</p><p></p><p>First of all I had arrest any complications that had started by my new lifestyle and asked my doc if insulin would help. He was thrilled. I came off Met and never looked back. Moderated my carbs back to to around 120 for a season and then as I wanted to get off weight plateaus I'd go down to the 50carbs a day thing for about a week and a half and it would drop me the next 6-8 pounds and I kept keeping it off. I was not depriving myself. All the time being okay with the ADA guideline numbers and not worrying.</p><p></p><p>So I basically have spent the entire two years MODERATING my way down to a 'tighter' regimen of numbers. So what I share with newbies is that YOU TOO can moderate down. AND by looking at the T1's who live long complication free lives with A1c's above 6 I see no cause for giving into fear. To have concluded from my paragraph in the other thread that I think a person should never set tighter guidelines later in their journey from when they started - is simply a 'jump' to conclude such and it is NOT what I was communicating (nor what I wrote) at all. So you're seeing inconsistencies where there aren't any. I'm sorry you misunderstood. I 'very much' want to communicate to a newbie to 'try it like I tried it' and to be wary of the voices that say the ADA guidelines are 'killing people'. That's hyperbole, plain and simple. And I don't think it helps newbies or anybody. If you're still confused and see inconsistencies then we'd have to agree to disagree. My approach has been a simple one - worked for me - and I offer that it can maybe help others too. But a person wanting to use the strict approach of a Dr. Bernstein can also have it work for them. I try to live and let live all the while sharing what's worked for me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="NewdestinyX, post: 203467, member: 35544"] [b]Re: A comparison of the guidelines for control; NICE, ADA, e[/b] There's only a 'seeming' inconsistency when you trying an contrast things that aren't 'opposites' in any way. My entire journey with D to this point has been EXACTLY what I prescribe to a newbie: moderation and time taking. I heard all the 'drop the numbers to normal immediately' mantra, what I term 'scare tactics' and it all it did was 'scare me'. My numbers didn't come down on ultra lo carb OR Metformin which made me so sick. I was trying to increase exercise but at such a lo carb level I had no energy and felt sick all the time even WELL AFTER the so called 'induction period'. My 'induction flu' never went away. So I said 'STOP'.. There has to be a better way. And there WAS indeed a 'better way' -- for me, that is. First of all I had arrest any complications that had started by my new lifestyle and asked my doc if insulin would help. He was thrilled. I came off Met and never looked back. Moderated my carbs back to to around 120 for a season and then as I wanted to get off weight plateaus I'd go down to the 50carbs a day thing for about a week and a half and it would drop me the next 6-8 pounds and I kept keeping it off. I was not depriving myself. All the time being okay with the ADA guideline numbers and not worrying. So I basically have spent the entire two years MODERATING my way down to a 'tighter' regimen of numbers. So what I share with newbies is that YOU TOO can moderate down. AND by looking at the T1's who live long complication free lives with A1c's above 6 I see no cause for giving into fear. To have concluded from my paragraph in the other thread that I think a person should never set tighter guidelines later in their journey from when they started - is simply a 'jump' to conclude such and it is NOT what I was communicating (nor what I wrote) at all. So you're seeing inconsistencies where there aren't any. I'm sorry you misunderstood. I 'very much' want to communicate to a newbie to 'try it like I tried it' and to be wary of the voices that say the ADA guidelines are 'killing people'. That's hyperbole, plain and simple. And I don't think it helps newbies or anybody. If you're still confused and see inconsistencies then we'd have to agree to disagree. My approach has been a simple one - worked for me - and I offer that it can maybe help others too. But a person wanting to use the strict approach of a Dr. Bernstein can also have it work for them. I try to live and let live all the while sharing what's worked for me. [/QUOTE]
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