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xendistar

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I was diagnosed yesterday morning with type 2 Diabetes, after previous warnings from the doctor I was half expecting it, being told to have second blood test and to book a double appointment with the GP sort of gave it away. I did not really have time to take it in yesterday as the wife had a health scare concerning DVT so spent a lot of yesterday at the doctors or hospital.

Am I scared or worried, no not really, I know that if I take my medication as I am supposed to and follow a healthy sensible diet plan then everything should be OK (although I need to work out a diet plan).

Overwhelmed certainly as there is so much to learn and take in. Food (as I notice with many other new suffers on here) is the big issue, but as with most things there is a steep learning curve to start with.

It is now that I really need to get a grips with my diet and exercise otherwise is going to get seriously bad
 
Hello xendistar and welcome to the forum

Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions you like and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 100,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi and welcome. You're already taking the right approach. Yes diet is key. There is lots of info on the forum, but do ask about any specifics. As you may have gathered it's very much about reducing carbs and portion sizes and making up where needed with protein, fats and veg of course
 
Thanks for the welcome, becoming very disillusioned the more I look at the food, as to what I can and cannot eat, I have my first diabetes clinic next Friday (14th) so will have a long discussion with them to make sure I really understand it. I always knew that with diabetes you had to avoid sugar but it is only now I realise where sugar is in food.
 
hello and welcome, i remember when i was told i was type2, i laughed, in the shock of the news
i,ve had a lot of help from members here
ask away with any questions
 
Thanks Ally, I don't think it is the shock of having diabetes, it is more a shock as to what I can and can not eat. To be fair I am going to wait till I have spoken to the clinic (that nothing against this forum), the doctor basically told me I had type 2 and gave me some paperwork along with the times and locations of the diabetes clinics. I am going to hang on with the little I know now until then and once I have a foundation of an understanding from them hopefully I will have a better understanding from which I can ask questions.
 
Don't be surprised if your med team are out of date with what's needed diet wise.. They will also tell you not to test .. Remember this is your body and you must do what you find best to keep it safe.
 
Thanks enclave, appreciate what you say concerning med team. I am going to speak with my younger brother this afternoon as he is also type 2, even though by his own admission he struggle with it. With info on this forum and bits I have read else where I am starting to form an understanding but I feel that I have to give the diabetes clinic a chance to say their piece which will hopefully give me the basis to move forward.

My brother has his own test kit and I had already realised that I will want to know what my body was doing (rather than waiting for blood tests results) to help me control this so I have been looking but knowing nothing about them and until I get onto a proper diet then it would be little point in getting one.
 
A lot of us here including myself use the Homehealth code free meters .. They are the cheapest for test strips.. When you first start testing you will use a lot of strips. Personally I am on the LCHF ( low carbs with changing all my low fat foods with normal fat food) in 11 months I have lost most of my puppy fat ! And my blood sugar has returned to normal .. Just don't follow the 'eat well plate' if they show you it at your bs meeting ... It put my sugars through the roof ..and I put on a stone in weight .. Just remember that Carbs turn to sugar .... Also a lot of fruit is high in carbs and sugar.
Finding what works for you is the main thing ... And your meter will play a big part of this
 
Well the news has now had time to sink in and I now at the mixed feelings stage. I wish now I could of got my myself along to the Diabetes Education session sooner (I choose this coming Friday morning), a week after finding out but available days and my working week would not permit.

At the moment I am just being extra careful with what I eat and the amount I eat. Trying to avoid the things that I would normally eat (cake, crisp biscuits, potato, bread) which I know are no good to me. I know after the session on Friday I am going to seriously need to get my head around the food I eat.

Got to see the boss tomorrow about my diabetes, hopefully that should not be a problem.
 
I will do for certain, I have learnt a lot (or at least I think I have) just reading this forum. Not sure what to expect on Friday as I have read some stories that some people are just processed as a number rather than being informed and educated, guess I wont know the answer to that until I go on Friday.
 
Well I had my first Diabetic Education session (as it called) today, it was a group thing, which I never thought about before, I was expecting some one to one but apart from some form filling it was a group event, is that normal?? The discussion on Diabetes it's self was quite well explained. The food discussion went down the NHS lines of moderation and eat a bit of everything. So apart from the group aspect nothing I was not expecting.

I have decided on a route with my food, I am going to follow the NHS route for a couple of reasons for the time being, what ever food route I go I have to drop portion sizes and I can't do that and cut out all the bad stuff pie's cakes etc as it will be to much cold turkey!!. Secondly at present I have no way of checking myself daily BS as I am waiting for my monitor to arrive (I got my tub of dip sticks at the education session). Thirdly I have to give the NHS a go to prove that it works or does not work for me before I go another way.

We went shopping tonight and it was a nightmare trying to choose what I can and can't have (eat). Where possible I have gone for low sugar, not sure if that the way to do it but I have to start somewhere. I did come up with one question, sweet potato, how to they measure up against a normal potato are they better or worse??
 
It's your choice .. Fingers crossed it works out ok for you.
 

A lot of people do very well on sweet potato.
Me? my blood glucose rockets into the stratosphere.

The only way for you to know how it works for you is to test, test, test, but you knew that already, didn't you?

I think you are making a good choice, diet wise. Eat the NHS suggested diet, test each food as you go, and reduce/eliminate the ones that spike you. Are you familiar with the NHS guidelines for blood glucose beofre and after meals? and are you aware that other, lower guidelines exist, suggesting that by lowering your blood glucose further, you can halt and delay diabetic complications? see the bloodglucose101 link in my signature, if you want to know more.

and please, keep visiting and posting the forum. it is a wonderful source of information, support and guidance.

I know that I would never have the good blood glucose control that I have if I didn't visit here.
 
Thanks guys n gals, at the moment I really feel I am running blind with the food and I have to start somewhere just to get me bearings.

I won't be going anywhere else other than here, this forum has taught me a lot, now I just need to get my head down and use that information
 
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