janeecee said:Agree, BMI is only part of the bigger picture. Waist circumference, waist to height ratio and waist to hip ratio are also important markers, as are many other things. Body fat scales are a good idea in theory but may people say they find them unreliable, at least the scales that are affordable and made for home use.
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My ideal, comfortable weight is about 1st above what the charts say I should be. Anything lower than that then I get a 'Cliff Richard' neck and people start asking me if I am unwell!!
izzzi said:Hi Gezzathorpe, My ideal, comfortable weight is about 1st above what the charts say I should be. Anything lower than that then I get a 'Cliff Richard' neck and people start asking me if I am unwell!!
You could be onto something, many friends etc; say this to me. when I am spot on with BMI.
Mayby Diabetics type 2 should be slightly above BMI to meet other necessary requirements.
I actually purposely put a few lbs on when I went to see my sisters the other week just to keep them happy for the way I look.
Roy
izzzi said:Hi Carol,
My honest is "I do not Know" its crazy
I am on one of those vegan type diets and it does not alter my BG when I gain or loose a few lbs.
Roy.
janeecee said:Agree, BMI is only part of the bigger picture. Waist circumference, waist to height ratio and waist to hip ratio are also important markers, as are many other things. Body fat scales are a good idea in theory but may people say they find them unreliable, at least the scales that are affordable and made for home use.
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janeecee said:It seems rather a lot of food for my needs! I presume you do the 'little and often' routine to avoid the hypos after dog-walking? I have so far stuck with 3 meals a day and no snacking in between meals because I never feel the need to. I'm curious as to how other people manage—3 meals a day, or 5-7 smaller meals throughout the day, or regular meals with small snacks. Has changing your eating pattern helped?
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janeecee said:I'm still working it out as my readings and pattern seem to change every few weeks, although it's hard to work out why, and then the past few days there seemed to be promising signs, and then I had an unexpected high that would have typically produced a reading of 1.0 less. So I really cannot fathom it at all. I guess I'm not the typical prediabetic/T2 and that's why I'm having such a struggle convincing my doctors, especially since they have more or less abandoned the OGTT as a diagnostic test.
I cannot work out whether variation or predictability in the diet would be better. Would the body respond better to a degree of unpredictability of carb intake or does the pancreas respond better when it knows what to expect? At the moment I'm taking the 'predictable' approach by having a small amount of carbs in the evening with (so far) no big spikes. However, after a few days it seemed to create slightly higher preprandial readings, and then the preprandial readings seemed to fall slightly, and just when I thought I had a predictable pattern the preprandial figures went up just a bit.
So…what works for you? Do you have your carbs evenly divided and predictable to avoid spiking?
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janeecee said:If I could be more active I'm sure it would help, but I'm doing all I can and its not even helping by a decimal point, it seems. I'm getting beyond fed up, to be honest, eating like a sparrow and getting nowhere. I'm thinking of giving up the forums because so much of what works for others isn't applicable in my case. With no help from my GPs, and therefore no access to regular blood tests, not even annually, I'm pretty much on my own with this. Green tea, cinnamon, ALA supplements—no difference at all. I even wrote to Newcaste University and didn't get as much as an automated reply, so I give up.
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janeecee said:Thanks, RRB. I've not given up looking after my diet and keeping my numbers down. I've just given up on looking for answers and theories, and trying to make it all go away by adopting some regime. 3 months ago I thought losing 4-5 lbs might make a difference but it hasn't. I thought increasing my activity might make a difference, but it hasn't. I thought tweaking my diet would make a difference, and it has to some extent, but I had the expectation that I would still be able to eat moderate amounts of healthy foods instead of eating like a sparrow, sometimes down to 900 cal per day. So, I guess I'll just need to carry on being careful about what I eat, and I live in hope that I will eventually be active enough to make a difference, but I've given up on the theories and pinning my hopes on the likes of the ND being the answer.
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gezzathorpe said:janeecee said:I'm still working it out as my readings and pattern seem to change every few weeks, although it's hard to work out why, and then the past few days there seemed to be promising signs, and then I had an unexpected high that would have typically produced a reading of 1.0 less. So I really cannot fathom it at all. I guess I'm not the typical prediabetic/T2 and that's why I'm having such a struggle convincing my doctors, especially since they have more or less abandoned the OGTT as a diagnostic test.
I cannot work out whether variation or predictability in the diet would be better. Would the body respond better to a degree of unpredictability of carb intake or does the pancreas respond better when it knows what to expect? At the moment I'm taking the 'predictable' approach by having a small amount of carbs in the evening with (so far) no big spikes. However, after a few days it seemed to create slightly higher preprandial readings, and then the preprandial readings seemed to fall slightly, and just when I thought I had a predictable pattern the preprandial figures went up just a bit.
So…what works for you? Do you have your carbs evenly divided and predictable to avoid spiking?
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I did read from yet another incredibly reliable source! that first-phase insulin is based upon previous recent meals.
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