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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chris24Main" data-source="post: 2738962" data-attributes="member: 585131">interestingly - the whole article is written from the perspective of "what does cold and exercise do in brown fat cells in the presence of abundant glucose" - so it's clear that this is beneficial (both exercise and cold) for glucose clearing and insulin sensitivity by different mechanisms, and while it does mention that while mitochondria can produce both heat and energy from other fuel sources - that condition is not tested - so it doesn't actually answer the question we started with - what is happening at the end of a long fast - where you are expecting the cells - all of them and particularly fat storage cells - to be more reliant on fatty acids and ketones for fuel than glucose.for what it's worth (and this may be a couple of steps too far, but bear with me) - the goal I'm aiming at is not clearing blood glucose per se... I think that can be done without the effort of fasting (for me, now) - but to re-constitute my cell linings and fat stores with better quality fatty acids than the seed oil derived unstable (and oxidisation prone) fatty acids that must be there (and I think is probably at the heart of my question too, because they will not be capable of providing the energy - thus feeling cold) from my use of seed and vegetable oils for years - and this will be a ~2 year project minimum...</blockquote>

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