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pinkzeezee

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Hi all I've been told I'm type 2 diabetic I take gluizide once a day my bloods done 1st thing in morning is between a 5_7 I'm confused as what should I eat and avoid I eat brown bread loads veg fruit salad and pasta once week small bowl I'm I doing right what can I eat for snacks
 
Hi and welcome Karen :)

Breads (most of them) are not good, neither (at least for most T2s) is pasta. Info on the veg and fruits will help ....

Can you advise what a daily 3 meal consists of?

Mike
 
Breakfast 2 sheeting with banana and milk. Lunch potatoes veg meat gravy tea brown bread sandwich then piece fruit if snack I have cracker or ryvita
 
OK .... long and short of it Karen

INS:

Eggs / bacon / lean meats / chicken / turkey (avoid the cooked skin if you can for the time being and just stick to the meat) hi meat content sausages (85% meat) fish (NOT battered) so salmon, tuna, mackerel, etc etc., vegetables (leafy greens) spinach, lettuce, kale, cauliflower, broccoli, zucchini. That's just a start and there's lots more as you take it all in. MANY people here subscribe to the low carb hi fat diet (LCHF ... you'll see that a LOT on here) and it works for them and yours truly .... that means cream, yoghurt (full fat) are OK as well.

Asfor drinks, tea (green) and water are fine and (again) others can branch out a little bit in that regard. Hi (85%) cocoa content chocolate in SMALL doses are OK too ! Nuts (walnuts / cashews unsalted) are also OK for most.

OUTS:

No potatoes and below ground vegetables as they're full of starch, no wheat or wheat products, no biscuits, no pasta, no bread, no sweets, no cereals, no bananas and no fizzy drinks. There'll be lots more info available as you search the forums and @daisy1 will be long in due course to provide you a great rundown.

What is the fruit you eat (other than the bananas)? Also question the gravy .... store bought ?

Mike
 
@pinkzeezee

Hello and welcome to the forum :)

To help you to get started, here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask all the questions you like and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 130,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hello and welcome,

It sounds to me like your doctor/nurse has told you to eat carbs with every meal and a lot of fruit. Sadly, this is the normal advice we all get from the NHS in the UK and other countries and is bad advice. It may be fine for non-diabetics, but is not fine for diabetics. All carbs (including wholemeal) turn to glucose once inside the system, and what we do not want is glucose running through our bodies.

Have you got a meter? If so, you need to test your meals. Test before and 2 hours after your first bite. Try to keep the rise in levels between before and after to under 2mmol/l (preferably under 1.5mmol/ or less) If the rise is more than that, there are too many carbs in that meal that are not helping your diabetes. You can try the same meal again with much reduced portions of the carbs and see if that helps, or you can cut those carbs out completely. Our bodies all react differently to different carbs. For example, I can cope with a couple of new or roast potatoes, but no more than a couple. Many people can't cope with even one potato. Same with bread, pasta, rice and anything made with flour - your gravy? (Bisto contains flour). Only your meter can tell you what you personally can manage, especially if used with a food diary including portion sizes.

Please ask any questions you like.
 
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