Agamatrix wavesense jazz

I have just had a letter of my GP saying I have to change over to that machine. I use accu check mobile and I find it very good I don't see why we should be forced to switch when you are happy with what you use.


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sounds like something from the film MATRIX

sorry thats a pun

if you like accu cheek blood testing i had them for over 15 years until i was put on pump

try this take bloods test at the same time from both machines see how they compare prior to checking do a strip check on both also see how they compare

then see if results at diffrent times of the day are
and do not forget HOSPITAL POSS GET SPECIAL REBATES ON THE NO OF UNITS SOLD ???? poss not also
it is a battle for every person on NHS medication

i would complain if your health is in trouble
also GP S like every person to try things so carry on you may improve
insulin has saved us all from a very short life thanks to many on trials we know nothing of ... vic

I found the solostar pen worked very badly and so the dose at night may not be what you think you are injecting and so you could hypo
Think the jazz measures high and testing it against other meters found large difference so if you are using bolus insulin the dose you gave would be too high based on a reading 15-20% out
Have just won the battle to have my abbott strips back but only because the abbott meter works at 4% in the winter and all other meters wont work below 10%

I was chosen as a newish to insulin type 2 by hospital rep to trial 8 or so pens. One pen dribbled badly during use and even more so when removed ,it was only after trying all pens the name of this device was given to me and since have read about the problem on other forums
You can have a longer needle if you think that will solve your problem but personally I would ask for a different pen ,when I was on Apidra the Dns gave me a better one but cant remember what is was called and it worked just fine

I have similarly been moved over to the AgaMatrix Jazz by doctor. Here I am finding readings higher than with previous device. Thoughts?

Yes, this meter gave me higher result as did the trueresult meter. Net result was a number of hypos.

Agamxtrix considered there was no issue with the meter. I will never use either meter again, cheap and ineffective

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I actually found the jazz to be one of the more accurate meters ive ever used, and the results were consistent.


It could be the other meter at fault, imagine the accuchek giving you slightly lower results, so you take less insulin which = no hypo

On the other hand, if you always get hypos with the jazz then it could just be your ratios are slightly wrong

Home testing meters are only meant to be accurate within 10% and unless you have a lab test to confirm which meter is closest you will never know!


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My GP practice switched us all to the wavesense jazz. I was quite prepared to like it although it does not look or feel like a quality machine. I have brittle diabetes so although I have a very green diet, I still have very low hypos and very high hypers but I was totally unprepared for a reading of 30 from the wavesense jazz!! :?: I still had some old testing strips from my ultrasmart meter so took a test immediately and found it was 20 on that meter. Still way too high but not nearly as alarming as 30. This has happened several times and has then resulted in a swing to 1.6 because I gave myself more insulin than I needed. It does not feel good!!

The worst thing is though that I keep getting error 4 messages whenever my hands are slightly chilly. Even if I rub the skin and rub my hands together, it still gives error 4 and as I walk a lot and need to know where I am blood sugar wise, this makes it pretty useless for me. I mean the temperature yesterday was 16 degrees, not exactly cold. What will it do, or not do, when the weather gets cold.

In the meantime, Accu-chek supplied me with their new accu-chek mobile and looking online their test strips are only £2 more per 100 than the wavesense jazz so I'm now going to ask my practice if they will support that instead. Seemingly accurate results and so much nicer to use.

Anyone have similar experiences?

didnt like Accu Check before and even now wavesense - gives me higher results as did - trueresult meter from accu check.

Net result was a number of hypos. ps both meters look cheap and both are the disappointing ... expensive cheap there all the same at the end of the day.
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Although I was forced to use it by my GP, I have been reasonably happy with the Wavesense Jazz meter up until now, although I have noticed some slight inaccuracies in the past. However, this evening I went hypo, and the monitoring results were completely inconsistent. This is what I got:-

6.57 pm 5.1
7.35 pm 5.2
7.49 pm 7.6
8.28 pm 7.6

I was already well hypo by the time I took the first test. I would estimate that my blood glucose was actually in the low threes, or high twos. I started eating high-carbohydrate snacks, but by 7.49 I was still hypo. Eventually things improved, and by 8.28 I felt reasonably normal, although my blood sugar reading was exactly the same as the previous one. Any meter that can give a normal reading when you can hardly see or stand up is not to be relied on. I realise that biochemistry can be an inexact science, but I don't recall having this problem with previous meters.

Just been changed to the jazz by my surgery (first time I've been given a free machine) always used an accu chek aviva and results have always matched my h1bc, started using the jazz and also tested with the accu chek, results at the lower end were accu chek 4.8 jazz 5.4 so not a lot of difference., accu chek 6.5 jazz 8.8 quite a big difference as I adjust my insulin depending on my readings this is potentially life threatening so I'm going to ask the surgery to give me back the accu chek strips, also I saw the diabetes consultant earlier this week and when I showed the diabetic nurse my blood glucose results on the machine she said oh no not a jazz and told me a lot of people have had problems with them, they may be saving money but they're putting us at risk.

Uh oh, not good reading. Have been informed that my surgery is changing all diabetics to the Wavesense Jazz and that my next prescription request for test strips will be for the Jazz only.
Will try to keep an open mind but it seems the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing as my DN gave me a replacement Contour only 3 weeks ago

All Type 1 diabetics are entitled to use a BG testing deivce that they are happy with and confident of the results. If your surgery has changed your device/strips without consulting you, then you need to compose a letter informing them of your requirements and that you wish to continue to use the system(s) of your choice.

I don't think that the cost of the testing strips is the issue here. I have no experience of the Wavesense Jazz device but it seems that it has gone outside the norm and its new algorithms might not be doing the job their software guys claim. It certainly seems that it does not suit many who've posted here.
GPs and Diabetes Nurses should be tuned into these issues and be prepared to ditch the CCG's doctrine on the device and strips that should be supported by the practice. There are plenty of brilliant devices whose manufacturers supply strips at £9 per 50. The CCG could not contest a GP's decision on these grounds.

I’ve just changed from GlucoRX mini to the jazz wave sense and found the jazz reports lower sugars than the mini. E.g 18.9 on the mini and 15.4 on the jazz. Lower blood sugars didn’t have such a discrepancy. Why can’t they get all devices more aligned ? By the way does anyone know what the standard deviation means. My nurse said mine was 2.9. Don’t know what this means.

I have used the Jazz for several years as it was the choice of my surgery and I think of the whole Commissioning Group. I was given a free meter and free strips on prescription. I imagine that the issue is something to do with bulk purchase and price. I have to say that I have had no problems, but as a Type 2 who was on Gliclazide and later insulin, a relatively small dose, it was never so critical for me. I have been LCHF for about a year, still taking very small injections of insulin and so far have had no problems. I would never have thought of doing any comparison as I was getting this free and accepted it as OK.
I have considered myself lucky to get free monitoring kit, as many do not.