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<blockquote data-quote="forge" data-source="post: 668274" data-attributes="member: 118650"><p>Food "boredom is not an isue around here.</p><p></p><p>No major carb and extra veg is still fine after 7 months and my wife and adult son have been on it for 2 meals per day as well as me for 3 meals per day. In that time I have been back to my specialist 2 times and got off 130 units insulin per day and onto 4 metforman tabs per day. Being off insulin helps me with driving regulations compliance. In 7 months I have lost 19KG but I am not losing much now but another 5 kg will make me happy and I have lost the weight without a vigorous exercise campaign.</p><p></p><p>We don't count carbs or cals or measure portions.</p><p></p><p>As for food variety we eat BBQ Curries oven "fried" crumbed chicken, steak sausages chops bacon eggs salads and slow cooker meals microwaved frozen veg fresh veg but no potatoes and grated cauleflower instead of rice. even deep fried frozen prawns rolled in coconut flour/wheat flour mix Cakes are always available. Occasional crispbread biscuits baked beans and small portion of all bran cerial with diet jelly and friut + an occasional glass of wine</p><p></p><p>I have found the casual approach is fine, it works and is sustainable and it is not necessary to do hi fats I am walking proof that you can do it all without extreme high fats. </p><p></p><p>My son has put together a list of recipes that we have used and liked.if anyone wants them I can email but there are too many to post.</p><p></p><p>Although bread is off the menu, we have not replaced it directly but the 3 of us get through a dozen large muffin/cakes in about 4 days. We dress up the cakes with choc bits, glace cherries, nuts, foam cream, yoghurt, sweetened cream cheese icing, and custard made from milk thickened with coconut flour. Plus I made "jam" from strawberries and gelatine with fake sugar and use the jam and foam cream.</p><p></p><p>Don't be frighetened to use some SR flour. 1/2 coconut flour and 1/2 wholemeal flour and fake sugar will make a 80% less carbs cake etc. If you keep the quantity of your treat down + the 80% less carbs then your tasty treat is not going to be a big deal and send you too high.</p><p></p><p>I sometimes make a tinned fish fish-cake with frozen veg and an egg and a heaped dessert spoon of wholemeal flour and a heaped desssert spoon of coconut flour and 2 tablespoons olive oil baking soda and some curry powder and that ends up a platefull and does not send me too high. I cook it with spray oil in a flat sandwich press toaster (it cooks from both sides in 5 minutes.) I even eat it with lots of tomato sauce. </p><p></p><p>No major carbs, no measuring and no serving size restrictions works fine with extra veg and some nut flour and xanthan gum, I am pretty sure everyone can find enough not too boring food to eat, you can have your full complement of vits and minerals the natural way without supplements.</p><p></p><p>It is all good fun too - if you treat it as fun it will be fun. If you treat it as punishment it will be punishment</p><p></p><p>The only issue is nut flour cooking is expensive and you can't buy ready cooked. Some wholemeal flour in the nut flour is not a bad option no matter what the LCHF purist say.it holds things together and makes things taste more normal. BTW olive oil is needed in coconut flour because it is made after the oil has been taken from the coconut. Olive oil in coconut flour tend to take away the coconut flavour, it depends on what you like.</p><p></p><p>There is no time for food boredom get on with the job of having fun on a no major carbs diet. it is too easy.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="forge, post: 668274, member: 118650"] Food "boredom is not an isue around here. No major carb and extra veg is still fine after 7 months and my wife and adult son have been on it for 2 meals per day as well as me for 3 meals per day. In that time I have been back to my specialist 2 times and got off 130 units insulin per day and onto 4 metforman tabs per day. Being off insulin helps me with driving regulations compliance. In 7 months I have lost 19KG but I am not losing much now but another 5 kg will make me happy and I have lost the weight without a vigorous exercise campaign. We don't count carbs or cals or measure portions. As for food variety we eat BBQ Curries oven "fried" crumbed chicken, steak sausages chops bacon eggs salads and slow cooker meals microwaved frozen veg fresh veg but no potatoes and grated cauleflower instead of rice. even deep fried frozen prawns rolled in coconut flour/wheat flour mix Cakes are always available. Occasional crispbread biscuits baked beans and small portion of all bran cerial with diet jelly and friut + an occasional glass of wine I have found the casual approach is fine, it works and is sustainable and it is not necessary to do hi fats I am walking proof that you can do it all without extreme high fats. My son has put together a list of recipes that we have used and liked.if anyone wants them I can email but there are too many to post. Although bread is off the menu, we have not replaced it directly but the 3 of us get through a dozen large muffin/cakes in about 4 days. We dress up the cakes with choc bits, glace cherries, nuts, foam cream, yoghurt, sweetened cream cheese icing, and custard made from milk thickened with coconut flour. Plus I made "jam" from strawberries and gelatine with fake sugar and use the jam and foam cream. Don't be frighetened to use some SR flour. 1/2 coconut flour and 1/2 wholemeal flour and fake sugar will make a 80% less carbs cake etc. If you keep the quantity of your treat down + the 80% less carbs then your tasty treat is not going to be a big deal and send you too high. I sometimes make a tinned fish fish-cake with frozen veg and an egg and a heaped dessert spoon of wholemeal flour and a heaped desssert spoon of coconut flour and 2 tablespoons olive oil baking soda and some curry powder and that ends up a platefull and does not send me too high. I cook it with spray oil in a flat sandwich press toaster (it cooks from both sides in 5 minutes.) I even eat it with lots of tomato sauce. No major carbs, no measuring and no serving size restrictions works fine with extra veg and some nut flour and xanthan gum, I am pretty sure everyone can find enough not too boring food to eat, you can have your full complement of vits and minerals the natural way without supplements. It is all good fun too - if you treat it as fun it will be fun. If you treat it as punishment it will be punishment The only issue is nut flour cooking is expensive and you can't buy ready cooked. Some wholemeal flour in the nut flour is not a bad option no matter what the LCHF purist say.it holds things together and makes things taste more normal. BTW olive oil is needed in coconut flour because it is made after the oil has been taken from the coconut. Olive oil in coconut flour tend to take away the coconut flavour, it depends on what you like. There is no time for food boredom get on with the job of having fun on a no major carbs diet. it is too easy. [/QUOTE]
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