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<blockquote data-quote="tim2000s" data-source="post: 1345071" data-attributes="member: 30007"><p>[USER=126456]@TomGreen101[/USER], the <a href="http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/33-million-americans-still-dont-have-health-insurance/" target="_blank">introduction </a>of the affordable care act in 2014 moved roughly 3% of US citizens into insurance in 2014, however 10% or so still remained without insurance. For the most part these were poor, black and hispanic and 4.5mn of them were children. </p><p></p><p>If 10% of the US population doesn't have insurance, and a good 50% of them are <a href="http://kff.org/uninsured/fact-sheet/key-facts-about-the-uninsured-population/" target="_blank">citing </a>cost as the main reason for this, I'm not sure that arguing that "The US has the best doctors" makes a jot of difference, if <em>not everybody</em> can afford to access them. The <a href="https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/access-to-health-care.htm" target="_blank">CDC's </a>stats state that 4.5% of people were unable to access needed healthcare due to cost. There is a lot of info on the <a href="https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/health-insurance.htm" target="_blank">CDC </a>site about access. </p><p></p><p>I think you miss the point about the UK system. It ensures that 100% of the population have healthcare coverage by using progressive taxation to ensure that those who can afford to pay more subsidize those who can't. It means that no-one is left in the position where they have to choose between feeding their kids or paying for an operation to keep a member of their family alive. It means that the entire population has access to healthcare that is better than the majority could afford under the US system. </p><p></p><p>Those who want to top up can then do so, if they so wish, to access private facilities, no waiting lists, etc. But that's then a choice.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tim2000s, post: 1345071, member: 30007"] [USER=126456]@TomGreen101[/USER], the [URL='http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/33-million-americans-still-dont-have-health-insurance/']introduction [/URL]of the affordable care act in 2014 moved roughly 3% of US citizens into insurance in 2014, however 10% or so still remained without insurance. For the most part these were poor, black and hispanic and 4.5mn of them were children. If 10% of the US population doesn't have insurance, and a good 50% of them are [URL='http://kff.org/uninsured/fact-sheet/key-facts-about-the-uninsured-population/']citing [/URL]cost as the main reason for this, I'm not sure that arguing that "The US has the best doctors" makes a jot of difference, if [I]not everybody[/I] can afford to access them. The [URL='https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/access-to-health-care.htm']CDC's [/URL]stats state that 4.5% of people were unable to access needed healthcare due to cost. There is a lot of info on the [URL='https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/health-insurance.htm']CDC [/URL]site about access. I think you miss the point about the UK system. It ensures that 100% of the population have healthcare coverage by using progressive taxation to ensure that those who can afford to pay more subsidize those who can't. It means that no-one is left in the position where they have to choose between feeding their kids or paying for an operation to keep a member of their family alive. It means that the entire population has access to healthcare that is better than the majority could afford under the US system. Those who want to top up can then do so, if they so wish, to access private facilities, no waiting lists, etc. But that's then a choice. [/QUOTE]
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