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<blockquote data-quote="Oldvatr" data-source="post: 2203355" data-attributes="member: 196898"><p>Electric vehicles is an interesting one. Firstly, the Grid will not support the need for all those necessary charging stations, and will collapse soon. Obviously, we need to move to a public transport rather than getting everyone to buy and use their own vehicles. The other problem with current strategy is that there is not enough lithium or similar electrolytes to make all those batteries, especially since they are also required to provide storage on the Grid for the renewables. finally there will need to be monumental investment into replacing the grid, the public transport infrastructure, and the power stations. The important thing is: it is doable and we have the technology. We need the will. followed by the shall.</p><p></p><p>PS Lithium is not recoverable once used in a battery. It is like fossil fuels, needs mining, and is not sustainable in the long term. Highly reactive with water, and not eco friendly when disposed of, Harmful/ poisonous to humans if not sealed up. We will need something else (tbd) to provide future energy storage.</p><p></p><p>Needs careful thinking. Which seems to be a luxury the current panic will not allow us to do. It is a sobering thought that of all the wind turbines currently in use today, most will need to be replaced within the next 10 years, If you have solar lights in your garden then you will be lucky to get a second year of use out of them. They are solid state, but have a short lifetime.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Oldvatr, post: 2203355, member: 196898"] Electric vehicles is an interesting one. Firstly, the Grid will not support the need for all those necessary charging stations, and will collapse soon. Obviously, we need to move to a public transport rather than getting everyone to buy and use their own vehicles. The other problem with current strategy is that there is not enough lithium or similar electrolytes to make all those batteries, especially since they are also required to provide storage on the Grid for the renewables. finally there will need to be monumental investment into replacing the grid, the public transport infrastructure, and the power stations. The important thing is: it is doable and we have the technology. We need the will. followed by the shall. PS Lithium is not recoverable once used in a battery. It is like fossil fuels, needs mining, and is not sustainable in the long term. Highly reactive with water, and not eco friendly when disposed of, Harmful/ poisonous to humans if not sealed up. We will need something else (tbd) to provide future energy storage. Needs careful thinking. Which seems to be a luxury the current panic will not allow us to do. It is a sobering thought that of all the wind turbines currently in use today, most will need to be replaced within the next 10 years, If you have solar lights in your garden then you will be lucky to get a second year of use out of them. They are solid state, but have a short lifetime. [/QUOTE]
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