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Lozzybabyw

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I'm newly diagnosed diabetes 2 I'm 80kg female 35yrs. I have been told I'm borderline but diagnosed as diabetic. I've also been told there isn't a need to test my sugars other than through doctors appointments etc which I believe is yearly. I suffer with breathing issues, heart racing & between dehydration & excess sweating. I have been told this is unlikely to be my diabetes.. I have medication which I take & luckily is effective now. I also have high cholesterol & no medication for this. I was put through various tests & yes anxiety & depression was checked & It is neither & agreed with my doctor. I am a happy person most of the time & do my best to smile through. On top I feel like I need to sleep & can get to a point of not able to control this sleep& can't wake myself up. I have had this going on in a vicious cycle for a year now & this is what lead to me being diagnosed with diabetes type 2. When I exercise I get confused to what I am doing & again am feeling sleepy & have been close to falling asleep whilst exercising.. I do my best to keep all my food low sugar but is proving difficult though this is through an app that shows what sugar etc is in my food.. It all started when i gave up smoking & started the gym.. Eating became the next thing & i put on weight to 83kg I have eaten well for about 5 months so am doing ok with bringing weight down.. Anyone give me pointers advice is much appreciated as I can't test so I really am lost with all this & want to stop feeling so ill a lot of the time. Many Thanks
 
Hi Lozzy and welcome to the forum :)

It is definitely necessary to test your levels. How else can you see what effects different foods have on your own levels? The Doctors don't want to prescribe strips as they are expensive. You will probably have to self-fund like so many members here. Members will be able to give advice on which are the best meters and strips to get, and where from.

Instead of keeping your food low sugar, you need to look at the carbohydrates and reduce them. You should test before and 2 hours after eating and aim for similar figures and adjust accordingly.

We are all your friends and will help you with whatever you need.

Here is the information we give to new members which should be helpful to you. Carry on asking questions as there is always someone who will be able to answer.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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Please sign our e-petition for free testing for all type 2's; here's the link:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/petition/

Do get your friends and colleagues to sign as well.
 
Hi Lozzy welcome to the forum, read Daisys post carefully. Most of us low carb or at least lower carb, thats no bread (or use Burgen) no pasta, rice (or only a bit of basmati) Can't see the point of only having a bt of rice mind, just a personal thing. In fact cut out the white ****. Have a look at blood sugar 101 - google it. It gives a good idea of what to eat plus a lot of good info.
 
Lozzybabyw
Testing is essential!
I am one of the self funders. I have a Freestyle Lite meter and buy strips from the supplier, Abbott Diabetes Care. I only wish the NHS were as well organised as Abbott. They keep records of all people who buy from them through a scheme called "Friends For Life" . I phone for a couple of packs of strips [at a little over half the retail price] and they come by post in a couple of days. It used to be quicker, but the post has gone to pot![ sometimes I could walk here from Maidenhead faster!!] . Batteries, test solutions, record books etc are free and I got my last meter update free too. For their service, I recommend them. Look up their UK website.
The Freestyle Lite is not one of the most complex meters, but it's small, pretty accurate and only needs a blood drop half the size of a pin head. It supports alternative site testing too. And if you must keep records on a computer[ I don't bother!] It will do that too
Hana
PS I'm a VERY LOW CARBER.
 
Lozzybabyw,

For me your post brings up two subjects that are, at least in my mind, related. While it took a diagnosis of T2 to focus my mind, I have for a long time felt that Syndrome X, a theory put forth in the 1940's is valid. That is, our diet is responsible for many of the modern 'conditions' that we suffer today, (high blood pressure, high cholesterol, irritable bowel, fatigue, etc.) Also that our diet and the medications that we take such as antibiotics destroy the bacterial balance in our digestive system. Our immune system is largely controlled by what occurs in our digestive system.... inflammation in many parts of the body is thought to be in large part caused by an out of control immune system. I came to the diagnosis of T2 with weight issues, not a lot of weight but something I have played yoyo with for decades. I have high blood pressure, irritable bowel syndrome and have struggled with mental attitude and physical fatigue. In a post I did yesterday, I catalogued my one month visit to my nurse. I have lost weight, renewed energy which is amazing to me, my blood pressure and resting heart rate are trending down, I no longer crave quick fix foods and while it is much too early to know now, I am hopeful that my cholesterol and triglycerides will be down in the future.

I picked up a book from the library the day I was diagnosed called 'The No Grain Diet'. The plan goes even farther in that it means No Grain, No Sugars, No Starchs. The premise is that we are 'hooked'... addicted to these refined foods as it is pervasive in much of our diet today and that we must, at least for a considerable period of time, treat them as if the are poison. It doesn't allow for whole-grains, at least for several weeks because wholegrain to a carb addict is like a Bud Lite to an alcoholic.

While I don't strictly follow the low carb diet that others here use, all of my carbs are made up of 'good' vegetables, meat and good fats. For the diabetes part, I test and record regularly as I try new foods. By following the no grain/sugar(includes most fruit)/no starchs(many root vegetable) I pretty well fix the requirement for foods that agree with my BG and the rest are most surprising and welcome side effects. Just my thoughts

Kenny :wave:
 
hi lozzy
im newly dignosed (less than 2 weeks)
some great info here, get reading.
my bg was 24 at the docs 9 days ago and im currently (just) reading 6.8 (not on my full metformin dose yet), ive dumped carbs pretty much and feel superb for it to be honest.

kev
 
Thank you for all your comments I am taking this all on board & will look into each & see what works. I applied for a free meter. I got no meter just a prescription slip to give to my doctor for the strips... I will push for testing though as I do think I need to test to know what will work for me best. Thank you to all so much.
I have signed the petition before I posted;-) x
 
I didn't get any testing just repeated by the diabetic nurse that it's not needed but since have noticed this.. I thought there was a connection between sugar &me falling asleep! I was falling asleep walking down the road& still sometimes:-/ I've tested my theory out over this time period.. It really DOES!! That's why being diabetic we feel tired a lot the sugar makes us sleepy not the other things like meds... I don't take any meds for I'm told I don't need any& can't test due to doctors saying... Exercise can sometimes help this but it also will sometimes puts me sleepier it's strange!


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Carbs turn to glucose (sugar) as soon as you eat them hence the need to low carb. You will find that if you eat carbs you will want to sleep. So congrats you have found out what causes it.
 
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