That's what I thought. And my optician was definitely aware and looking for retinopathy. But there was only 2 weeks between the two tests and the NHS one seemed to pick something up. So I shall take onboard this rather negative development.Slight correction regarding eye tests. Opticians do examine the retina. It’s how my diabetes diagnosis came about. Obviously there’s no substitute for proper screening by an ophthalmologist, but nonetheless an optician on the high street should still have the necessary means to at least detect retinopathy.
Thanks, had thought it was just me, reading through this forum it seems obvious there are plenty in the same boat!Yep, sounds about right.
Sorry you have experienced the same as me.
I think they are a bit ignorant in the field. They shouldn’t be, but they are and I think given the pressures on them for admin and all the rest it needs a special person to go and educate himself further. In our local practice I’ve had ‘it’s calories in and calories out’ from a gp, I’ve had one recently ask for a fasting glucose test (I’ve been diagnosed diabetic for abt 17 years), a few years ago I had the jolly old gastric band suggested - the specialist I was sent to sent me back with a resounding ‘no’. I did have one diabetic nurse suggest I should eat at most one slice of bread a day, but she was sticking her neck out and didn’t want to explain further. I’ve been prescribed metformin, byetta, sitagliptin and threatened with insulin ‘though it does make you put on weight.’ A bit of basic physiology such as could be found on t’internet would explain why none of these interventions are likely to succeed with classic type 2s. EventuallyI discovered (here and elsewhere) all I needed to do was cut carbs. I don’t take any medication and every time I go for a check up I’ve lost another few kilos. I just wish I’d found that out 16.9 years ago!I have a really good relationship with my Dr. Great guy who has been very supportive through suicide planning, strokes etc.
But when it comes to my Diabetes I cant help but feel very let down.
Blood test tells him I am pre-diabetic. Doesn't explain what that actually means or what I should do about it.
Second test confirms Diabetes.
Sent to Diabetic nurse. She checks feet, gets me put on medication, weighs me, looks at me critically and tells me I could "lose a few pounds" ( I am 6'4" tall and weighed 15st at the time) ..and that was it.
No advice about diet. No advice about lifestyle. Nothing.
Subsequent visits have seen me told not to eat grapes, my weight, once down at 14st 5lb, has still had the "well you could lose a few pounds" comment and my feet are always fine.
I have asked what I should eat and been told, "No grapes and no sugar..if you can help it!" and that's the extent of any dietary advice.
So, in four years since diagnosis, I have felt woefully unprepared and very let down by a system that gives no guidance, no support and criticises when it goes wrong but is incapable of advice to get you back on track.
Anyone else ?
Same net effect though... to you at least...No not useless. Systematicly I'll informed.
It is. But this runs through the nhs. An (admittedly retired) gp friend was unable to differentiate between ketosis and ketoacidosis (just don’t let your carbs drop too low John) another dr friend (we are are buddies of more than 30 yrs standing) asked me ‘do you know exactly how metformin works?’ ie he didn’t. When I was in hospital in the autumn with PE they would come round taking orders for lasagne and spotted **** and handing out metformin.Same net effect though... to you at least...
apparently forum software won’t allow me to name a common English steamed pudding. You have to laughIt is. But this runs through the nhs. An (admittedly retired) gp friend was unable to differentiate between ketosis and ketoacidosis (just don’t let your carbs drop too low John) another dr friend (we are are buddies of more than 30 yrs standing) asked me ‘do you know exactly how metformin works?’ ie he didn’t. When I was in hospital in the autumn with PE they would come round taking orders for lasagne and spotted **** and handing out metformin.
It doesn’t need to be fish or chicken all the time. Any reason why you’re only eating these? Nothing wrong with other meats, lots of veg, dairy herbs spices etc etc. Take a look at this thread https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/what-have-you-eaten-today.75781/page-1097#post-1958636 for ideas. Also sites such as diet doctor.com or ditchthecarbs.com and loads of others. If you have ideas and want to make them low carb just google search the name and add low carb or keto. Almost everything has an alternative way of making it or something similar.Thank you, i have already signed up for a six week course couple of hours a week starting on the 19th March, just a case of wha do i do in the meantie, am attempting to change diet which so far has only really cut out sugar and try to check what addatives are in foods i buy, but getting fed up with chicken or fish all the time.
Ah yes, I was threatened with insulin by my doctor.I think they are a bit ignorant in the field. They shouldn’t be, but they are and I think given the pressures on them for admin and all the rest it needs a special person to go and educate himself further. In our local practice I’ve had ‘it’s calories in and calories out’ from a gp, I’ve had one recently ask for a fasting glucose test (I’ve been diagnosed diabetic for abt 17 years), a few years ago I had the jolly old gastric band suggested - the specialist I was sent to sent me back with a resounding ‘no’. I did have one diabetic nurse suggest I should eat at most one slice of bread a day, but she was sticking her neck out and didn’t want to explain further. I’ve been prescribed metformin, byetta, sitagliptin and threatened with insulin ‘though it does make you put on weight.’ A bit of basic physiology such as could be found on t’internet would explain why none of these interventions are likely to succeed with classic type 2s. EventuallyI discovered (here and elsewhere) all I needed to do was cut carbs. I don’t take any medication and every time I go for a check up I’ve lost another few kilos. I just wish I’d found that out 16.9 years ago!
apparently forum software won’t allow me to name a common English steamed pudding. You have to laugh
Try Lamb, Beef, Pork, 97% sausages. Full English is available with lots of bacon. I do know the struggle and empathise, I'm starting to look like a drumstick!.Thank you, i have already signed up for a six week course couple of hours a week starting on the 19th March, just a case of wha do i do in the meantie, am attempting to change diet which so far has only really cut out sugar and try to check what addatives are in foods i buy, but getting fed up with chicken or fish all the time.
The only reason purely comes down to lack of knowledge, have invested in a couple of cookbooks, ultimate diabetes cookbook and sugar free diet which i really need to study and start experimenting will also look at the links you sent and try and educate myself better would also benefit my son if i can get him to eat healthier.It doesn’t need to be fish or chicken all the time. Any reason why you’re only eating these? Nothing wrong with other meats, lots of veg, dairy herbs spices etc etc. Take a look at this thread for ideas. Also sites such as diet doctor.com or ditchthecarbs.com and loads of others. If you have ideas and want to make them low carb just google search the name and add low carb or keto. Almost everything has an alternative way of making it or something similar.
Due to high cholesterol i cut out full english and other fatty type foods three or four years ago and a bit unsure on going back, plus i used to like toast/fried bread with it which im told is not good.Try Lamb, Beef, Pork, 97% sausages. Full English is available with lots of bacon. I do know the struggle and empathise, I'm starting to look like a drumstick!.
Bread on the whole is bad but fatty meats should be fine. Cholesterol is an interesting subject that many doctors may not fully understand.Due to high cholesterol i cut out full english and other fatty type foods three or four years ago and a bit unsure on going back, plus i used to like toast/fried bread with it which im told is not good.
Due to high cholesterol i cut out full english and other fatty type foods three or four years ago and a bit unsure on going back, plus i used to like toast/fried bread with it which im told is not good.
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