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<blockquote data-quote="pianoman" data-source="post: 213214" data-attributes="member: 35747"><p>As you say I may simply be reacting to the implication of the headline that "eating fat will cause Type 2"... that is perhaps not what the researchers are saying but that does seem to be the way it is being interpreted especially by those who already believe this to be an established fact.</p><p></p><p>---</p><p><em>Edited to add...</em></p><p></p><p></p><p>Regarding the dietary breakdowns I think it important to be clear when referring to the percentage of energy from each macronutrient, that these diets were not isocaloric: with the standard diet at 4.07 kcal/gm and the high-fat at 5.56 kcal/gm... surely they deliberately overfed the high-fat mice? Which would mean changing multiple variables at the same time.</p><p></p><p>I did find more detail on these diets on-line:</p><p></p><p>Standard...</p><p><a href="http://www.researchdiets.com/pdf/Data%20Sheets/D12329.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.researchdiets.com/pdf/Data Sheets/D12329.pdf</a></p><p></p><p>and</p><p></p><p>High-Fat...</p><p><a href="http://www.researchdiets.com/pdf/Data%20Sheets/D12331.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.researchdiets.com/pdf/Data Sheets/D12331.pdf</a></p><p></p><p>To answer my own question: the fats in both cases are some Soybean Oil but mostly Hydrogenated Coconut Oil. Hydrogenation I understand, converts what is otherwise an healthy natural Fat into a Trans Fatty Acid -- in which case giving even more of this fat is a questionable practise... small wonder it led to ill-effects at the metabolic level?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pianoman, post: 213214, member: 35747"] As you say I may simply be reacting to the implication of the headline that "eating fat will cause Type 2"... that is perhaps not what the researchers are saying but that does seem to be the way it is being interpreted especially by those who already believe this to be an established fact. --- [i]Edited to add...[/i] Regarding the dietary breakdowns I think it important to be clear when referring to the percentage of energy from each macronutrient, that these diets were not isocaloric: with the standard diet at 4.07 kcal/gm and the high-fat at 5.56 kcal/gm... surely they deliberately overfed the high-fat mice? Which would mean changing multiple variables at the same time. I did find more detail on these diets on-line: Standard... [url]http://www.researchdiets.com/pdf/Data%20Sheets/D12329.pdf[/url] and High-Fat... [url]http://www.researchdiets.com/pdf/Data%20Sheets/D12331.pdf[/url] To answer my own question: the fats in both cases are some Soybean Oil but mostly Hydrogenated Coconut Oil. Hydrogenation I understand, converts what is otherwise an healthy natural Fat into a Trans Fatty Acid -- in which case giving even more of this fat is a questionable practise... small wonder it led to ill-effects at the metabolic level? [/QUOTE]
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