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<blockquote data-quote="RussG" data-source="post: 213328" data-attributes="member: 30691"><p>Fair enough pianoman. I think there is a major problem with scientific literacy amongst journalists. The scientists are usually fairly precise in what they say and what the conclude. Journalists, less so.</p><p>As regards the diet – I still don’t think they were in any way comparing the propensity of any diet to provoke diabetes. I guess the scientists would adhere to the excess calorie intake = obesity model and the easiest way to get excess calories is via fat, which is more calorific per gram. Hence, yes they deliberately overfed the mice to make fat mice.</p><p></p><p>I don’t think that the lack of comparable calorie content is thus an issue for this experiment. [It’s mildly interesting to note that the mice on the high carb, lower calorie diet didn’t appear to have the same results, but that’s another day].</p><p></p><p>As for the type of fat, well both diets included the same fat types, but in differing quantities but only the high intake diet mice had strong responses. I suppose to be accurate all you can say is that obesity caused by high fat intake of hydrogenated coconut oil and soybean oil interrupts the glucose / insulin homeostatic mechanism. You’d have to do further tests to see whether just eating ‘natural’ fat makes any difference.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RussG, post: 213328, member: 30691"] Fair enough pianoman. I think there is a major problem with scientific literacy amongst journalists. The scientists are usually fairly precise in what they say and what the conclude. Journalists, less so. As regards the diet – I still don’t think they were in any way comparing the propensity of any diet to provoke diabetes. I guess the scientists would adhere to the excess calorie intake = obesity model and the easiest way to get excess calories is via fat, which is more calorific per gram. Hence, yes they deliberately overfed the mice to make fat mice. I don’t think that the lack of comparable calorie content is thus an issue for this experiment. [It’s mildly interesting to note that the mice on the high carb, lower calorie diet didn’t appear to have the same results, but that’s another day]. As for the type of fat, well both diets included the same fat types, but in differing quantities but only the high intake diet mice had strong responses. I suppose to be accurate all you can say is that obesity caused by high fat intake of hydrogenated coconut oil and soybean oil interrupts the glucose / insulin homeostatic mechanism. You’d have to do further tests to see whether just eating ‘natural’ fat makes any difference. [/QUOTE]
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