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Munkki

Well-Known Member
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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
Hi all,

I have just been diagnosed with type 2 and I am looking forward to conversations with you. There is definitely a lot to learn for me!

After putting off my last blood test for a few weeks of months (not sure) I got my diagnosis and I am not kind of hyperactive. I bought 3 books and I am reading like a madwoman.

The next step is a blood glucose meter. The pharmacist just told me I "don't need one", but I just decided that I order one online. Changing my diet and lots of exercise blindly has been helpful, but not ideal. I am now eating small amounts of carbs and try to exercise every day and I already feel less hungry.

Have a lovely evening :)
 
welcome :)
i am tagging @daisy1 for her great starter pack for newly diagnosed.

have a read and ask any questions that arise.

all the best
 
Good on you for ordering yourself a meter, it is essential to have one otherwise you don't know what affect the food you are eating is having on your BS. A lot of the advice you will be given here will contradict what the professionals tell you but everyone here is speaking from experience so you are in good hands.
 
@Munkki

Hello and welcome to the forum:)

You have started well by getting yourself a meter and testing regularly. Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Thank you for the information. I am going to ask my GP to print out my test results. I just remember that my HbA1c was 49 a few weeks ago and 47 a few days ago. My fasting BG was normal, so were my glucose tolerance test results, but I don't have the exact measures at the moment.
 
Hi @Munkki welcome :)

You seem to have the right positive attitude!

In my sig below there is some more reading material for you ... ;)
 
Thanks for the lovely welcome. I feel like an anxious mess at the moment, but I am sure this is normal a week after a diagnosis. I got my BG meter last night. Can you believe that I pressed the prick against different fingers for half an hour before I had the guts to press?! After all the drama I got 5.5 mmol/l an hour after my dinner (cauliflower, homemade baked beans and rye bread with cheese). This morning I had 4.9 mmol/l and then ate cacao zoats (porridge with courgette and raw cacao with added chia and flax seeds and some coconut) and drank some kefir. In half an hour I can measure again and I am looking forward to it :wideyed:

I am trying to find out what to eat, as I really want to have a normal (more than a day's length) period again! I am going to read the suggestions above.
 
5.8 mmol/l 2 hours after breakfast. Either I got my health habits back on track within 2 weeks or there is something strange going on :confused:

Edit: 4.4 mmol/l before lunch o_O
 
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@Munkki I've just noticed that your posts mention normal fasting levels & glucose tolerance test results. Were you diagnosed solely on the Hba1c? Normal fasting results are not entirely uncommon in diabetics but 'passing' a glucose tolerance test seems pretty unusual. I have heard that issues with iron levels can give false Hba1c results & as you have not been menstruating normally then that may be something worth looking into. Did you mention your unusual bleeding pattern to your Doctor?
 
Good morning Safi,

Thanks for your reply, and for letting me know that my fasting results are okay :cool:

Yes, I have been diagnosed on the basis of my HbA1c results, and actually I felt quite okay after drinking the glucose drink. I do feel really bad after eating cake and stuff like that, though. I am going to ask my GP about iron levels tomorrow.

I will let you know x
 
Okay, 8.4 after lunch with rye bread, homemade baked beans, fresh red pepper and too many brazil nuts. I am not invincible after all :p

I am getting a bit excited about these BG tests LOL
 
Good afternoon,

So, I can give a bit of an update. It seems that I do have type 2 diabetes. LADA can be excluded from the patterns of my BG and the lack of symptoms. The reason for my high HbA1c and my low fasting glucose can be explained by the fact that the high HbA1c a few weeks ago was like a kick in my bum to get my health habits back on track. I have been exercising a lot more and cutting down on carbs and portions altogether. Exercise seems to help me a lot with my post meal BG, too, so this might explain the normal glucose challenge test.

Altogether the GP visit today was very positive. He told me to keep up the good habits and not to fall into extremes. For me this means that I am going to have a small amount of complex carbs with every meal (aiming for 100g a day), lots of veg, protein and fat. My appetite for cake and other refined products is ruined for now. I figured that 30 minutes of jogging can boost my metabolism very well, so I keep up the daily exercise routine.

There are a few points I disagree with. I am glad that I got a prescription for testing strips, but my GP asked me to use them every few days, because I would get too stressed otherwise. However, I found the experience very interesting and motivating. I feel like I have some control over my health, and don't have to worry after eating something I am not sure about. I just measure and see how bad it really was. The other point was about 'living'. Yes, I do have to make sure I don't get too rigid, but I don't want to consider cakes, for example, as a part of life. I am perfectly happy with red wine and cheese, or my colourful lunchbox-salads that make my sandwich-eating colleagues so envious :p

It still find it a bit daunting that I have to watch my heath for the rest of my life, as I have seen what a few months with some stress at work and a few too many carbs, not even refined sugar, can do to me! Still, I am able to stay within healthy BG levels without medication and want to keep this lifestyle up.

Have a good weekend :headphone:
 
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