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<blockquote data-quote="Oldvatr" data-source="post: 1188600" data-attributes="member: 196898"><p>Hi, yes I did note some success with BM (and also Gymnema Sylvestre). I reported my findings in another thread in the Alternative Treatments thread (this section)</p><p><a href="http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/sharing-my-experience-of-bitter-melon.88671/" target="_blank">http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/sharing-my-experience-of-bitter-melon.88671/</a> </p><p></p><p>In addition I shared a graph of my results as follows:</p><p><a href="http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/my-personal-journey.100931/#post-1150417" target="_blank">http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/my-personal-journey.100931/#post-1150417</a></p><p></p><p>To summarise, I did have a sudden and significant drop in bgl while taking the BM, and it surprised me at the way it suddenly kicked in. When I stopped my trial, my bgl rose again immdiately, so the effect was due to the BM.</p><p></p><p>But, I was reading up about LCHF diet around this time, and my next trial with Gymnema Sylvestre was hijacked by me changing diet to LCHF which distorted my results. I have dropped both of these supplements, and I am now using LCHF as my primary means of controlling my bgl (with reduced oral meds) </p><p></p><p>I am getting the same results thst I got from BM but without the expense, and without the gut reaction that came with it. If LCHF loses its effectivity, then I have BM to turn to. It may be that the BM reduces my insulin resistance (fatty liver) and prepared the way for my diet to work as it does, but then again, others are suceeding with just the diet alone. Certainly BM is used effectively as a diabetes treatment in India, so does have a good track record, but no formal RCT studies to offer as 'proof'. It remains in the 'quack medicine' cupboard as far as NHS is concerned.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Oldvatr, post: 1188600, member: 196898"] Hi, yes I did note some success with BM (and also Gymnema Sylvestre). I reported my findings in another thread in the Alternative Treatments thread (this section) [URL]http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/sharing-my-experience-of-bitter-melon.88671/[/URL] In addition I shared a graph of my results as follows: [URL]http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/my-personal-journey.100931/#post-1150417[/URL] To summarise, I did have a sudden and significant drop in bgl while taking the BM, and it surprised me at the way it suddenly kicked in. When I stopped my trial, my bgl rose again immdiately, so the effect was due to the BM. But, I was reading up about LCHF diet around this time, and my next trial with Gymnema Sylvestre was hijacked by me changing diet to LCHF which distorted my results. I have dropped both of these supplements, and I am now using LCHF as my primary means of controlling my bgl (with reduced oral meds) I am getting the same results thst I got from BM but without the expense, and without the gut reaction that came with it. If LCHF loses its effectivity, then I have BM to turn to. It may be that the BM reduces my insulin resistance (fatty liver) and prepared the way for my diet to work as it does, but then again, others are suceeding with just the diet alone. Certainly BM is used effectively as a diabetes treatment in India, so does have a good track record, but no formal RCT studies to offer as 'proof'. It remains in the 'quack medicine' cupboard as far as NHS is concerned. [/QUOTE]
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