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Type 2 Blood sugar levels

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lavety

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Regularly, my blood sugar is higher in the morning despite having nothing to eat in the previous 14 hours.
This dows not tally with current ideas on Type 2 Diabes.
Recently, I fasted for 48 hours without meds - no solid food and only coffee with a little milk.= - sugar level down from 9 to 6 and traces of Ketone in urine. Still feel perfectly normal.
Surely my sugar levels should have plummeted?
 
As a Type 2 your liver will always dump glucose into your system if you do not eat.
 
Denise,
Thank you - how long do you reckon it can do so?
 
If you don't eat, the liver will convert stored fat into glycogen for use as energy using the hormone glucogan (the opposite to insulin). Therefore as Denise points out, there will never be a glucose deficit.
 
Now that has me puzzled - how is it one can still get 'Hypo's ?]
 
Every person who fasts for any length of time will have trace ketones. It's a normal physiologic response and means your body is burning fat. It's of no concern if you don't also have very high BG levels.
 
This is interesting, I have been feeling unwell for a few days and always feeling so tired, tested myself this morning and my Blood level is high for me 10.6, I know I am over weight as I need to lose about 2 stone, interestingly enough if you look at Diet books well the ones I have have had a look at tell me that it is OK to fast for a day or so as it will help burn off the excess fat that I carry around with me, so the question is any suggestions how to lose weight but with out having high blood readings in the morning.

I know I don't do as much exercise as I should, but when you are feeling tired it is hard to get motivated and go for a walk.
 
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It's not just us diabetics who get liver dumps, everyone does and they are a normal and necessary function that our livers perform to make sure we get enough energy. So your morning fasting levels are controlled more by your liver than by your diet and are not so important in the overall scheme of things. They're just a single spot check out of a number of tests than you can do over the course of a day,
and the pre and post meals test you (should ) do are a much better guide to how you're managing your glucose levels in general.

Reducing your carbohydrate consumption and increasing fats and oils to compensate will reduce your glucose levels in general and once they're down, your morning/fasting level will usually follow suit. In particular,if you eat a low carb high(er) fat diet, you body is able to switch over to fat instead of carbs for fuel, and so cease to rely on them as a major energy source, and glucose levels will tend to flatten out overall.

Robbity
 
I have been watching this for a while, there appears to be something in this increase of fats and red meats was it the Atkins diet or something like that which said this was the way to go. What I find so interesting is that during the 1960's and early 1970 type 2 Diabetes (from what I have been told) was at a manageable level for the NHS to deal with. Now I am not blaming anyone for what has gone wrong since, but I suppose somewhere there will be a fall guy, but I do wonder if we had a more heather diet back then than we do no. I have not seen any evidence to deny what I believe but I am convince that food additives and processes to keep food fresh for longer in the supermarkets has something to do with this explosion of type 2 Diabetes and a more fundamental problem of food having more estrogen added through the food chain which has the knock on effect of couples not being able to conceive and the rise in male impotency as well.
 
Lynbarn said:
there appears to be something in this increase of fats and red meats was it the Atkins diet or something like that which said this was the way to go. What I find so interesting is that during the 1960's and early 1970 type 2 Diabetes (from what I have been told) was at a manageable level for the NHS to deal with.

food additives and processes to keep food fresh for longer in the supermarkets has something to do with this explosion of type 2 Diabetes
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Well, additives to livestock could be damaging us in some ways. But fat consumption did not increase, it decreased. because low fat was the orthodoxy. The theory of high fat (of which Atkins diet is one version) was a dissident theory, persecuted by the medical establishment until about 10 years ago.

Diabetes and artery disease soared from 1970 to 2000, precisely when the doctrine of high carb low fat was in control. HCLF was devised precisely because of the belief it would bring down those diseases. But research showed HCLF was causing those diseases. At least, that's what more and more people agree. There's a big controversy between high carb low fat and low carb high fat.
 
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