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Jo_the_boat

Jo_the_boat

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Littleborough, Lancashire
Type of diabetes
Type 2
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Diet only
Just a quickie.
I can't remember what is divided by what to ascertain a 'healthy' proportion. Is it Trigs by HDL? My readings:
Total Chol 4.1
trigs 0.9
Serum HDL 1.49
Serum LDL 2.2
SE NON HDL 2.6

Thanks
Stay healthy
 
Jo_the_boat said:
Just a quickie.
I can't remember what is divided by what to ascertain a 'healthy' proportion. Is it Trigs by HDL? My readings:
Total Chol 4.1
trigs 0.9
Serum HDL 1.49
Serum LDL 2.2
SE NON HDL 2.6

Thanks
Stay healthy
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Although I understand this system is undergoing revision, the formula is Total Cholesterol, minus HDL, minus trigs which by my reckoning is 2.52 in your case. Hope this helps.
 
I've never heard of that one, but I agree with the T/HDL - which you want less than 2 and better approaching 1:1 - making yours 0.6 -which is excellent.

That is a measure of the particle size distribution of LDL particles, meaning yours are light and fluffy.

Another good measurement is the one that's actually on the lipid panel - total C/ HDL - though you haven't listed - that should be lower than 4.5 - and that gives more of a measure of how quickly you are recycling your lipoproteins -

@Grant_Vicat - can you explain the reasoning behind that formula? Total Cholesterol is really a meaningless measurement of all cholesterol molecules - which is simply managed by your liver. LDL is one transport particle, and trigs are one type of content - so I can't derive any useful meaning out of that.... [can I put it another way - what have you been told that, in that case 2.52 means.?]

I should point out that there is plenty of controversy about what may or may not be important in the lipid panel results - these two that I've listed make sense to me, but that's as far as it goes.
 
Chris24Main said:
I've never heard of that one, but I agree with the T/HDL - which you want less than 2 and better approaching 1:1 - making yours 0.6 -which is excellent.

That is a measure of the particle size distribution of LDL particles, meaning yours are light and fluffy.

Another good measurement is the one that's actually on the lipid panel - total C/ HDL - though you haven't listed - that should be lower than 4.5 - and that gives more of a measure of how quickly you are recycling your lipoproteins -
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Is that not as stated above, i.e. total 4.1 / HDL 1.49?
Anyhow, I woke up this morning - which as a bonus.
Thanks for the replies.
 
Always good to wake up....

Sorry - I realise it sounds pedantic - it's simply that on my lipid panel; this ratio is explicitly stated - "Serum Cholesterol / HDL ratio: 4.2"
In your post, you had not listed it, though clearly, it's not a difficult piece of mathematical gymnastics to figure out the number.

The reason why there is a difference - is that - I believe both ratios to have important meaning, but I would struggle to persuade a diabetic nurse to pay any attention to my Trig/HDL ratio when my LDL level is higher than the threshold.

However - if a number is explicitly stated on the lipid panel result - that means that someone operating within the professional guidelines also believes that is an important number, so at least I have a way of making a positive argument "look, you know that I'm on a very low-carb diet, and there is some research that suggests that people like me may have elevated LDL, but the deeper research suggests that this isn't necessarily a risk if your total/HDL is within 4.5 - which mine is.. so can we just agree that it's all good?"
 
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