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Can keto cause diabetes???

Jenny Ruhl did it for me. Her book Blood Sugar 101 was an eye opener for me, and I have not looked back since. Very easy read and I recomend it wholeheartedly.
 
Yes, that's the reference. Whilst any downward change is welcome, looking at "his" published results paints the picture his mantra should be judged on. Frankly his results are not on a par, and keep the cohort in a high risk category for complications, he should retire now, and quietly. He had the gall to recently attempt to have NutriRECS study pulled due to his bias - https://annals.org/aim/fullarticle/...mption-dietary-guideline-recommendations-from
 
Jenny Ruhl did it for me. Her book Blood Sugar 101 was an eye opener for me, and I have not looked back since. Very easy read and I recomend it wholeheartedly.

Yes, and almost all the info in her book is freely available on the www.bloodsugar101.com website.

It is a fabulous resource and I often recommend it for people arriving with T2.
 
I try to think outside the box if I can. Keto that we discuss here is diet induced intentionally. What if it is induced by other means? Many religions practice long fasts and reduced rations as part of their credo. Obviously many in a war torn area or famine hit area will experience famine induced ketosis. So do we see a sudden rise in diabetes being reported among the survivors? Do people rescued from long shipwreck endurance events become diabetic after their experience? We do have documented records from ancient maritime scenarios where the provisions run low and rations were introduced. Did the Mayflower people for instance have a high rate of diabetes reportied in their diaries and journals?

No. as far as I am aware these events of prolonged starvation do not induce diabetes in the survivors.
 
Amusing. I have come off insulin and halved my other medication in 6 months by going on a low carb diet, (as a vegan meat is not an issue). I expect to come off medication totally within the next six months. So the think you will find that this is incorrect. However it is possible that those on such diets may be missing other essential trace minerals/elements etc , and they should ensure they are getting all their requirements in these areas.
 
@dennisrichards welcome to the forum, and congratulations on your excellent progress! We do have a community presence here for those living the vegan/vegetarian lifestyle. If you haven't already, I hope you'll drop by there to introduce yourself and get acquainted... https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/category/vegetarian-diet-forum.71/

It's great that you've found the diet that works best for you.

Please understand that the purpose of this thread is to discuss incorrect information given about the keto diet by a vegan doctor and researcher on a recent vegan podcast. For those of us with diabetes who have benefitted from using the keto diet over many, many years, it's very frustrating and upsetting.

This thread isn't intended to argue whether or not the vegan diet works for some people. It can and does for some people. That said, no diet works for everyone, and we each have to find what works best for us. It's a process.

If you're interested in learning more about the keto diet, there is a keto plant based diet.

There is some information online at www.VirtaHealth.com, also at www.DietDoctor.com, the latter however is a member only website. And you'll have to use the search field for vegan or vegetarian information on those two keto/low carb websites.

Additionally, there is a book on the keto plant based diet that is excellent. You can read more about it here on Amazon... https://www.amazon.com/Ketotarian-M...d=1581640624&s=books&sr=1-2#reader_0525537171

When Ketotarian was published in 2018, I bought it and had one of our older, seasoned vegetarian diabetes group members, who has type 1 diabetes and has used the keto/low carb diet for years, read and review it. She gave it an excellent review. I myself found it to be excellent too and regularly use it as a reference.
 
Quick update... I met with our diabetes group member who is vegetarian to lay out the changes I'm making to our diabetes group meetings, and my reasoning for each change. It went very well. She's been part of our group for years and fully intends to continue with us. What we eat at meetings isn't a problem for her because she already knows how to prepare and enjoy plant based keto foods, so will continue meeting with us for general support as a person living with type 1 diabetes. Phew. So relieved (and happy). I would have really missed her presence.
 
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