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<blockquote data-quote="zand" data-source="post: 714225" data-attributes="member: 85197"><p>I think the OP on the original thread which you refer to was mostly complaining that she had to pay for a full meal when not all of it was suitable for her as a diabetic. This to my mind was fine to her to express. What I didn't like was the superiority she seemed to feel because she was normal weight and hadn't 'brought this disease on herself'. So that would infer that it's OK for the restaurant to charge me for the full meal, even though I wasn't eating it all, because I am seriously obese. I mentioned in my reply that I haven't been able to eat a 3 course meal for many years, simply because I had cut down my food intake to try to lose weight and my stomach can't manage so much food at once now. This happened years before I became diabetic. I never managed to lose the weight until I started LCHF and even now it's slow. So yes, I got a little upset by the comment and I didn't find it respectful of where I am in my walk with diabetes.</p><p></p><p>Of course we should be allowed to express opinions; as you say it is a forum. I think the moderator in this instance was simply explaining the views of many of us who had replied.</p><p></p><p>Did I eat my way to diabetes? Yes and no. Yes, because I believed the rubbish I was fed about carbs particularly wholemeal ones being good for us and the lie about saturated fats being bad. No, because I did my best with the knowledge I had at the time. No-one could have tried harder than me. I just didn't have the key, but I searched for it for years. So I don't think someone who has until fairly recently been able to eat 3 course meals has any right to say I caused this myself.</p><p></p><p>Are others to blame? I believe there is nearly always a reason (medical, physiological, psychological or emotional) for someone overeating or eating the wrong foods, so no I wouldn't use the word 'blame'. You of course are free to argue with me and I'm sure you will. (I may not have time to get back to you today!)</p><p></p><p>Ironically I agree with your post though, just not in respect of this particular thread.</p><p></p><p>This is one of the rare occasions when I agree with a moderator. (lol I hope I don't get a warning for saying I don't often agree with them<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite9" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":eek:" />)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="zand, post: 714225, member: 85197"] I think the OP on the original thread which you refer to was mostly complaining that she had to pay for a full meal when not all of it was suitable for her as a diabetic. This to my mind was fine to her to express. What I didn't like was the superiority she seemed to feel because she was normal weight and hadn't 'brought this disease on herself'. So that would infer that it's OK for the restaurant to charge me for the full meal, even though I wasn't eating it all, because I am seriously obese. I mentioned in my reply that I haven't been able to eat a 3 course meal for many years, simply because I had cut down my food intake to try to lose weight and my stomach can't manage so much food at once now. This happened years before I became diabetic. I never managed to lose the weight until I started LCHF and even now it's slow. So yes, I got a little upset by the comment and I didn't find it respectful of where I am in my walk with diabetes. Of course we should be allowed to express opinions; as you say it is a forum. I think the moderator in this instance was simply explaining the views of many of us who had replied. Did I eat my way to diabetes? Yes and no. Yes, because I believed the rubbish I was fed about carbs particularly wholemeal ones being good for us and the lie about saturated fats being bad. No, because I did my best with the knowledge I had at the time. No-one could have tried harder than me. I just didn't have the key, but I searched for it for years. So I don't think someone who has until fairly recently been able to eat 3 course meals has any right to say I caused this myself. Are others to blame? I believe there is nearly always a reason (medical, physiological, psychological or emotional) for someone overeating or eating the wrong foods, so no I wouldn't use the word 'blame'. You of course are free to argue with me and I'm sure you will. (I may not have time to get back to you today!) Ironically I agree with your post though, just not in respect of this particular thread. This is one of the rare occasions when I agree with a moderator. (lol I hope I don't get a warning for saying I don't often agree with them:eek:) [/QUOTE]
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