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<blockquote data-quote="tim2000s" data-source="post: 714966" data-attributes="member: 30007"><p>So let's review your points, and more importantly the way that they are put across in order to understand the reaction they are receiving.</p><p></p><p>1. Your initial question is "Should diverse points of view be encouraged on the forum to encourage discussion?"</p><p>2. You believe that a large number of T2 diabetics are largely responsible for their own condition but you accept that other factors could be involved.</p><p>3. You believe that overweight/obese people are largely responsible for their own condition but you accept that other factors could be involved.</p><p>4. Moderators should be aware of the impact of their words in a forum environment as some observers can and will attribute more weight to them due to position.</p><p>5. Your statement was:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Inference can easily be drawn from this that people are responsible for having diabetes, but it would be equally fair to say that you could mean that people are responsible for the consequences of their condition.</p><p>6. You mention risk factors of obesity/being overweight. Again, this allows inference that these are causes, rather than correlations, and the very term "risk factor" carries with it a strong inference as to what is meant.</p><p>7. You mention that you have "cards to play as well" and that "personal responsibility" is important in reducing the need to respond to the cards. This can again be taken in multiple ways, but given your subsequent posts, I am guessing that you have suffered complications and are having to deal with them.</p><p>8. Your comment relating to blame and shame is not directly linked to your statement about weight gain and then latterly loss, and again allows inference that you are discussing your diabetes.</p><p>9. - Again, the use of the words suggest that the condition to which you are referring is diabetes. It could also be the subsequent results of that diabetes, however you have provided a framework to allow the inference.</p><p></p><p>So you question why people are inferring statements and misunderstanding the point you are making, but it's fairly easy to see why if we minutely comb through and read carefully your comments. Most can be taken in more than one way. As was mentioned earlier, the way in which you have expressed your thoughts and opinions has allowed the discussion to assume that you have a perjorative view on the way that you see diabetics and the reasons for them being diabetic.</p><p></p><p>The question I find myself asking is whether you are being cleverer than all the participants and asking questions that bring forth personal prejudices in a way that perhaps others haven't spotted?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tim2000s, post: 714966, member: 30007"] So let's review your points, and more importantly the way that they are put across in order to understand the reaction they are receiving. 1. Your initial question is "Should diverse points of view be encouraged on the forum to encourage discussion?" 2. You believe that a large number of T2 diabetics are largely responsible for their own condition but you accept that other factors could be involved. 3. You believe that overweight/obese people are largely responsible for their own condition but you accept that other factors could be involved. 4. Moderators should be aware of the impact of their words in a forum environment as some observers can and will attribute more weight to them due to position. 5. Your statement was: Inference can easily be drawn from this that people are responsible for having diabetes, but it would be equally fair to say that you could mean that people are responsible for the consequences of their condition. 6. You mention risk factors of obesity/being overweight. Again, this allows inference that these are causes, rather than correlations, and the very term "risk factor" carries with it a strong inference as to what is meant. 7. You mention that you have "cards to play as well" and that "personal responsibility" is important in reducing the need to respond to the cards. This can again be taken in multiple ways, but given your subsequent posts, I am guessing that you have suffered complications and are having to deal with them. 8. Your comment relating to blame and shame is not directly linked to your statement about weight gain and then latterly loss, and again allows inference that you are discussing your diabetes. 9. - Again, the use of the words suggest that the condition to which you are referring is diabetes. It could also be the subsequent results of that diabetes, however you have provided a framework to allow the inference. So you question why people are inferring statements and misunderstanding the point you are making, but it's fairly easy to see why if we minutely comb through and read carefully your comments. Most can be taken in more than one way. As was mentioned earlier, the way in which you have expressed your thoughts and opinions has allowed the discussion to assume that you have a perjorative view on the way that you see diabetics and the reasons for them being diabetic. The question I find myself asking is whether you are being cleverer than all the participants and asking questions that bring forth personal prejudices in a way that perhaps others haven't spotted? [/QUOTE]
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