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<blockquote data-quote="AloeSvea" data-source="post: 2733202" data-attributes="member: 150927"><p>I got so used to the Forum-legendary Brunneria coming in at this stage, I realise I need to be a good student of hers and say - ketosis is a state that can be, is, gone in and out of, unless on a <em>very </em>low carb diet. </p><p></p><p>Otherwise it's a scale, a spectrum that one goes up and down, in and out of.</p><p></p><p>I know that just eating four or five blueberries can take me out of very-low carb enough diet for ketosis. Or a serving of peas with lamb chops. But still with the peas and the berries - it's a low carb way of eating. Low-carb itself is a spectrum. This is why I say "sometimes keto" . I have been on a ketogenic diet way of eating, and had lower levels of ketones in my blood. </p><p></p><p>But nowadays, I personally, (as a very metabolically deranged person, and - only I can call myself that! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" />) only go into ketosis proper after three or so days of fasting. But yes - I've been lower carbing since about three to six months after diagnosis. Loooong term, as in ten years. Which is not uncommon to find online. (I have a great BG meter which is pretty cost effective when I'm gainfully employed, called the CareSensDual, and you buy test strips for both BG, and ketones. I don't have to test ketones nowadays though, due to past years of self-checking/testing. And I don't unless I am particularly looking out for them for some reason or other.)</p><p></p><p>But, I have 'unnaturally', as in diabetic-proper, high blood glucose, regardless of eating LCHF, for the past year or so.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AloeSvea, post: 2733202, member: 150927"] I got so used to the Forum-legendary Brunneria coming in at this stage, I realise I need to be a good student of hers and say - ketosis is a state that can be, is, gone in and out of, unless on a [I]very [/I]low carb diet. Otherwise it's a scale, a spectrum that one goes up and down, in and out of. I know that just eating four or five blueberries can take me out of very-low carb enough diet for ketosis. Or a serving of peas with lamb chops. But still with the peas and the berries - it's a low carb way of eating. Low-carb itself is a spectrum. This is why I say "sometimes keto" . I have been on a ketogenic diet way of eating, and had lower levels of ketones in my blood. But nowadays, I personally, (as a very metabolically deranged person, and - only I can call myself that! :D) only go into ketosis proper after three or so days of fasting. But yes - I've been lower carbing since about three to six months after diagnosis. Loooong term, as in ten years. Which is not uncommon to find online. (I have a great BG meter which is pretty cost effective when I'm gainfully employed, called the CareSensDual, and you buy test strips for both BG, and ketones. I don't have to test ketones nowadays though, due to past years of self-checking/testing. And I don't unless I am particularly looking out for them for some reason or other.) But, I have 'unnaturally', as in diabetic-proper, high blood glucose, regardless of eating LCHF, for the past year or so. [/QUOTE]
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