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andrew67

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Having watched yesterdays program on diabetes it said that Carbs were not good for you, but in the diet sheets you produce you list many meals containing Carbs .I find this very confusing what I am I meant to eat ?
 
Hello @andrew67 . If you are interested in low carb there is an excellent low carb forum which includes recipes and a thread where people post there daily menu.
 
Having watched yesterdays program on diabetes it said that Carbs were not good for you, but in the diet sheets you produce you list many meals containing Carbs .I find this very confusing what I am I meant to eat ?
It's a very complicated subject and it would take 20+ pages to properly explain it.

I wouldn't say that carbs are "bad" for you, but I also wouldn't say they are "good" for you either. Carbs are not necessary for basic human survival which means that aren't essential.

What we know is bad is a high fat/high carb diet. Maintaining a caloric surplus (eating more calories than you exert) leads to weight gain, which can lead to increased insulin resistance, heart disease, and other issues.

Now, many people on this forum prefer a low carb diet for a number of reasons. It generally yields immediate results which is important for someone trying to lose weight and/or needs to rapidly lower their glucose levels. Long-term, it's just as effective as other diets that target fat-loss, but it's not proven to necessarily be MORE effective at reducing a1c levels in people with type 2 diabetes.

On the other hand, some people find it difficult to severely restrict their carbohydrate intake and it can have negative social implications especially in cultures where bread or rice are a major part of peoples' diet.

Long story short, there is no "best" approach for everyone, and what works for one person may fail miserably for someone else. It's all about figuring out which plan/approach works best for you.
 
@andrew67

Hello Andrew and welcome to the forum Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful, especially the advice about carbs. Ask more questions and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Having watched yesterdays program on diabetes it said that Carbs were not good for you, but in the diet sheets you produce you list many meals containing Carbs .I find this very confusing what I am I meant to eat ?
Hi. Are these sheets from this site www.diabetes.co.uk or from Diabetes UK www.diabetes.org? The latter I'm afraid has yet to catch-up with some aspects of diabetes
 
As already said what suits one will not suit another so we all have to find the way that suits us best. There are carbs in most foods but the starchy carbs like rice pasta bread and root vegetables are the ones that are most likely to raise blood glucose but this does vary from person to person some can eat small portions of them some don't eat them at all
 
Hi, I've been following the 10 week low carb program, unfortunately it's not worked for me. Since being diagnosed type 2, 5 years ago, I've used 'good' carbs, i.e. Brown rice. As this was a fairly normal diet for me over the years it wasn't difficult! I take metformin & stiplaglipin(!) twice per day, my bloods have been between 5/ 7 for ages, but since trying to cut the carbs further my readings are nearer 7/8. I've also put weight on, even though my weight hasn't changed much in the last 20 years, since my last baby. I've also feel quite tired, though my thyroid isn't up to scratch, had to have an increase of meds. So less carbs doesn't seem to be for me. I've gone back to my normal diet, lost 3lb, bloods down to 6.8 tonight after dinner.
 
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