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Carnivory - An Interesting Video

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Anyone who is interested in eating carnivore (zero carb or animal products only) might find this interesting.

Has some quite rational thoughts on why it works and especially about resetting our relationships with food.


Well I thought it was pretty good anyway...

Do we need a carnivore section in the Low Carb area like we have a ketogenic one?
 
bulkbiker said:
Very interesting indeed.. and quite illuminating about the eggs.. I wonder if she ever thought about changing meal timings rather than just the composition of the meals. Maybe a beef lunch would have had different results to a beef dinner..
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I found it fascinating because of some of the weight-loss resistant members we have on the forum. Agree - beef might be good for b'fast or lunch rather than dinner - worth experimenting with. I know the eggs bit wouldn't work for @zand though :)

If I ever got to a point where I stalled at weight loss and wanted to lose more, I think the FII and Marty Kendall's blog would definitely be worth looking into further.
 
Yes, an excellent video - and nice and short at 12 mins, which makes it very accessible.

The benefits for carnivory for me have been eliminating a lot of foods (veg) that it turns out were disrupting my guts, and also eating more of the intensely nutrient rich animal products (esp organ meats), which is providing me with better nutrition.

I've come to the N=1 conclusion that the veg/fibre was annoying my intestinal walls so much that they weren't really absorbing the nutrients from all the nutritious food that was passing through.

Feel much better eating approx 98% animal products (yesterday was some goatsmilk yog for lunch and a mixed grill in the evening). And I take his point that reintroducing veg would be a good thing, but I am still so enjoying the way I feel now, that I don't want to risk stepping back to how I used to feel. Maybe in the future, but not just yet... lol.
 
@Indy51 Thanks for posting the link. It's a very good read. Similar protocol to Dr Paul Mabry and also Paleomedicina who advocate limiting protein (although not the type). I've certainly noticed that out of all the meats, beef needs more insulin. And yes @bulkbiker a Carnivore section sounds a great idea!
 
That was an interesting read @Indy51
I'm new to this meat eating caper after 30 odd years a vegetarian & I actually find that beef more than any other meat has me bouncing off the walls - another indication of how dietary intakes can impact us in individual ways. Could well be because I tend to eat it more often as a large lunch when I'm skipping dinner or could be that I'm 'merely' pre-diabetic. Could also be my bodies way of saying "about time you fed me right you hippy" ;) .
 
"The Sami of Finland, who primarily live off a low-carb, high-fat diet of meat, fish, and reindeer milk (I have to imagine that’s coming to Whole Foods soon), also gather wild plant foods, particularly berries and mushrooms (Finland’s forests produce 500 million kg of berries and over 2 billion kg of mushrooms each year!)"

After reading this, and being mindful of my 23andme ancestry results (NW European-most recently Irish, Scottish, English), I'm thinking of trying my own version of this diet. One stumbling block for me has been the thought of quitting my berries and yoghurt for breakfast. I enjoy mushrooms, so making them the basis of "veg" intake won't be too difficult, adds some variety and have an excellent nutrient profile.
 
Indy51 said:
"The Sami of Finland, who primarily live off a low-carb, high-fat diet of meat, fish, and reindeer milk (I have to imagine that’s coming to Whole Foods soon), also gather wild plant foods, particularly berries and mushrooms (Finland’s forests produce 500 million kg of berries and over 2 billion kg of mushrooms each year!)"

After reading this, and being mindful of my 23andme ancestry results (NW European-most recently Irish, Scottish, English), I'm thinking of trying my own version of this diet. One stumbling block for me has been the thought of quitting my berries and yoghurt for breakfast. I enjoy mushrooms, so making them the basis of "veg" intake won't be too difficult, adds some variety and have an excellent nutrient profile.
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I found this bit inteersting though "sometimes even feeding their reindeer hallucinogenic mushrooms to produce psychoactive urine" so they didn't eat the shrooms themselves but "processed" them via the reindeer...
 
bulkbiker said:
I found this bit inteersting though "sometimes even feeding their reindeer hallucinogenic mushrooms to produce psychoactive urine" so they didn't eat the shrooms themselves but "processed" them via the reindeer...
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Probably less dangerous for them that way - if shrooms toxic, the reindeer would die and not the humans. Not my cup of tea though :D

Think I'll stick to shrooms of the normal, edible variety.
 
This will probably sound tragic (though admittedly it's never been a common green in Australian shops) but I finally tried watercress today. Might have to try Gordon Ramsay's soup sometime. However, saw it again in the local supermarket and recalled reading that it was one of the earliest greens foraged by humans. Checking out the nutrition info, it sounds even more of a powerhouse than spinach. Might even learn how to grow it at home as it's supposed to be pretty easy, according to Youtube :)

Edited to add: can anyone advise me on greens that can be foraged in Ireland/Scotland/England and NW Europe generally?
 
Really interesting interview with the amazing Phil Escott on healing his reactive arthritis with carnivory - his journey from vegetarian to vegan to carnivore:

 
One issue I have with Barry Groves (and others I've heard here and there), where the term "designed" as in "humans are designed to eat" - no, they weren't designed, they evolved!
 
bulkbiker said:
Anyone who is interested in eating carnivore (zero carb or animal products only) might find this interesting.

Has some quite rational thoughts on why it works and especially about resetting our relationships with food.


Well I thought it was pretty good anyway...

Do we need a carnivore section in the Low Carb area like we have a ketogenic one?
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Thanks @bulkbiker marked this to read when you first posted it, but only just got around to watching it. Very interesting watch and totally agree about the emotional attachment to food. Only ever gone a week carnivore, but definitely up for attempting longer and would support a dedicated section in the low carb forum.
 
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