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<blockquote data-quote="phoenix" data-source="post: 111581" data-attributes="member: 12578"><p>You are now switching your argument to other studies and i'm not going to play your game and follow them up. Your original quote contained several errors, I was kind and called them myths.</p><p></p><p>The original post said that the French had <u>the same rate of obesity</u> as ithe UK: actually they have half the obesity rate: </p><p>that they eat more sat fat: they eat about the the same as in the UK (though I suspect it comes from different sources); </p><p>they smoked more. they smoke slightly less </p><p> that they havel the same average blood pressure and cholesterol. Had you followed this up you would have found this holds true comparing the North of France to much of the UK but not for the SW of France where the BP and cholesterol levels are slighly lower but CVD is very much lower )</p><p></p><p>Now I do think there is a great difference between the SW French lifestyle and that in the UK .There are several aspects that may prove to be part of the explanation of the differing levels of CVD. Incidently, a comparison of conventional risk factors(ie BP, lipids, weight) and CVD instances between Northern France and Oxford reveals similar levels of risk factors and similar CVD instances.</p><p> I certainly don't think that you will pinpoint any French (or should it be South European) paradox down to one dietary component. There are immense differences in lifesyle and diet between places with high levels of CVD like Glasgow and places with low levels like the Gers</p><p> However, your thread started with the arguments of Kendrick, why should anyone accept his arguments about cholesterol if he has not got a few basic and easily verifiable facts correct?</p><p></p><p>Like Ken, I'll stick to what my cardiologist says,. As he's from SW France, I think I've got good odds that he's doing the right thing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="phoenix, post: 111581, member: 12578"] You are now switching your argument to other studies and i'm not going to play your game and follow them up. Your original quote contained several errors, I was kind and called them myths. The original post said that the French had [u]the same rate of obesity[/u] as ithe UK: actually they have half the obesity rate: that they eat more sat fat: they eat about the the same as in the UK (though I suspect it comes from different sources); they smoked more. they smoke slightly less that they havel the same average blood pressure and cholesterol. Had you followed this up you would have found this holds true comparing the North of France to much of the UK but not for the SW of France where the BP and cholesterol levels are slighly lower but CVD is very much lower ) Now I do think there is a great difference between the SW French lifestyle and that in the UK .There are several aspects that may prove to be part of the explanation of the differing levels of CVD. Incidently, a comparison of conventional risk factors(ie BP, lipids, weight) and CVD instances between Northern France and Oxford reveals similar levels of risk factors and similar CVD instances. I certainly don't think that you will pinpoint any French (or should it be South European) paradox down to one dietary component. There are immense differences in lifesyle and diet between places with high levels of CVD like Glasgow and places with low levels like the Gers However, your thread started with the arguments of Kendrick, why should anyone accept his arguments about cholesterol if he has not got a few basic and easily verifiable facts correct? Like Ken, I'll stick to what my cardiologist says,. As he's from SW France, I think I've got good odds that he's doing the right thing. [/QUOTE]
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