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<blockquote data-quote="phoenix" data-source="post: 453706" data-attributes="member: 12578"><p>I think that you would have more information on which to make a decision ie a full lipid panel but it also depends on your other risk factors.</p><p>There are some people who develop very high cholesterol (higher than yours is at the moment) on a low carb diet which Dr Dayspring a lipidologist and largely low carb advocate suggests needs either treating with statins or diet modification</p><p> </p><p><a href="http://www.lecturepad.org/dayspring/lipidaholics/pdf/LipidaholicsCase291.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.lecturepad.org/dayspring/lip ... ase291.pdf</a></p><p>One year is not really a good indicator, so it's unsurprising that you found those figures. The normal view is a long term one, </p><p><a href="http://image.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(13" target="_blank">http://image.thelancet.com/journals/lan ... 40-6736(13</a>)62405-8/fulltext</p><p> </p><p>This was from the Heart Protection study It's a good visual way of showing the NNT over 5 years.</p><p><a href="http://www.nntonline.net/ebm/newsletter/2003/06/diabetes_and_statins.asp" target="_blank">http://www.nntonline.net/ebm/newsletter ... tatins.asp</a></p><p> </p><p>As we are people with diabetes it's those people that we should be looking at.</p><p>The Cards study was actually stopped because it became unethical to continue with a non treatment group. The number needed to treat was 32 over 4 years (outcome major CVD event) This study is probably not applicable to you since these were people with diabetes but also another risk factor(hypertension ,retinopathy , current smoking or albuminuria) They were mainly male and over 60. (there are however people on this forum with similar risk factors)</p><p><a href="http://www.rxfiles.ca/rxfiles/uploads/documents/Lipid-QandA-CARDS.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.rxfiles.ca/rxfiles/uploads/d ... -CARDS.pdf</a></p><p> </p><p>These are the NNT from several trials including non diabetics :</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.medicine.ox.ac.uk/bandolier/band47/b47-2.html" target="_blank">http://www.medicine.ox.ac.uk/bandolier/ ... b47-2.html</a></p><p> </p><p>There is a further slightly updated article here (which sorts put the outcomes into separate groups)</p><p><a href="http://www.medicine.ox.ac.uk/bandolier/booth/cardiac/statout.html" target="_blank">http://www.medicine.ox.ac.uk/bandolier/ ... atout.html</a></p><p> </p><p>There is a much more recent trial with more women in, I haven't time but will look it up later.</p><p>edited to delete repeated section</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="phoenix, post: 453706, member: 12578"] I think that you would have more information on which to make a decision ie a full lipid panel but it also depends on your other risk factors. There are some people who develop very high cholesterol (higher than yours is at the moment) on a low carb diet which Dr Dayspring a lipidologist and largely low carb advocate suggests needs either treating with statins or diet modification [URL='http://www.lecturepad.org/dayspring/lipidaholics/pdf/LipidaholicsCase291.pdf']http://www.lecturepad.org/dayspring/lip ... ase291.pdf[/URL] One year is not really a good indicator, so it's unsurprising that you found those figures. The normal view is a long term one, [URL='http://image.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(13']http://image.thelancet.com/journals/lan ... 40-6736(13[/URL])62405-8/fulltext This was from the Heart Protection study It's a good visual way of showing the NNT over 5 years. [URL='http://www.nntonline.net/ebm/newsletter/2003/06/diabetes_and_statins.asp']http://www.nntonline.net/ebm/newsletter ... tatins.asp[/URL] As we are people with diabetes it's those people that we should be looking at. The Cards study was actually stopped because it became unethical to continue with a non treatment group. The number needed to treat was 32 over 4 years (outcome major CVD event) This study is probably not applicable to you since these were people with diabetes but also another risk factor(hypertension ,retinopathy , current smoking or albuminuria) They were mainly male and over 60. (there are however people on this forum with similar risk factors) [URL='http://www.rxfiles.ca/rxfiles/uploads/documents/Lipid-QandA-CARDS.pdf']http://www.rxfiles.ca/rxfiles/uploads/d ... -CARDS.pdf[/URL] These are the NNT from several trials including non diabetics : [URL='http://www.medicine.ox.ac.uk/bandolier/band47/b47-2.html']http://www.medicine.ox.ac.uk/bandolier/ ... b47-2.html[/URL] There is a further slightly updated article here (which sorts put the outcomes into separate groups) [URL='http://www.medicine.ox.ac.uk/bandolier/booth/cardiac/statout.html']http://www.medicine.ox.ac.uk/bandolier/ ... atout.html[/URL] There is a much more recent trial with more women in, I haven't time but will look it up later. edited to delete repeated section [/QUOTE]
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