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<blockquote data-quote="AloeSvea" data-source="post: 2565737" data-attributes="member: 150927"><p>[USER=537222]@G0ldengirl68[/USER] . On a more serious subject than popcorn - for most of us with type 2 - one can't get 'around' the fact that we have proven to be excess-carb intolerant (in relation to dietary fat), along with other processed-food evils. As do many many many human beings! Exhibit A: type two diabetes, Exhibit B: Cardio vascular disease. Some are able to go 'back' to eating a fair whack of carbs, post reversal, as seen in this forum, but it seems to be mighty rare. Does happen though - the body's machinations are a wondrous thing!</p><p></p><p>Metformin cannot change that - a big blood glucose system break down response. It can help us when needed - a wonderful thing about anti-diabetic medications. It can aid us, but not take over a broken blood glucose system and make it better again. As a commentator has said - I think it was the pharmacist Suzy Cohen, along with others, type two is not about a lack of metformin, taking it does not make us better again. (Better in this context, meaning 'fixed'.)</p><p></p><p>And as Dr Fung says, the main way, the key way, to deal with a dietary disease is with diet. Can't get away from that. (Dr Fung says it way more indelicately than that - which I love him for, but I won't be so indelicate on a British-based forum!)</p><p></p><p>I met an 84 year old recently who had had type two since he was 40. He was still trucking along, and was on insulin, and did not lower his carbs, had not lowered his carbs significantly, ever. But, I was driving him to the renal clinic. And boy - was he, ah - mood disordered, (takes one to know one when seen?) I would say. As he had not eaten, nor taken his insulin because he had left it in my car whilst at the renal clinic. And it was a loooong car trip there and back. (He spent the last hour barking, "You are lost! You are lost!" to me. and scoffing. Loved that scoffing! Which may be partially true, me being a lost soul?, but I did, actually, know where I lived, contrary to his opinion of me on that subject.) Anyway - the moral of that tale - ignore the dietary aspect of a dietary disease at your own peril! In terms of quality of life. (And those driving you?) But, you may still be long-lived with the help of meds.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AloeSvea, post: 2565737, member: 150927"] [USER=537222]@G0ldengirl68[/USER] . On a more serious subject than popcorn - for most of us with type 2 - one can't get 'around' the fact that we have proven to be excess-carb intolerant (in relation to dietary fat), along with other processed-food evils. As do many many many human beings! Exhibit A: type two diabetes, Exhibit B: Cardio vascular disease. Some are able to go 'back' to eating a fair whack of carbs, post reversal, as seen in this forum, but it seems to be mighty rare. Does happen though - the body's machinations are a wondrous thing! Metformin cannot change that - a big blood glucose system break down response. It can help us when needed - a wonderful thing about anti-diabetic medications. It can aid us, but not take over a broken blood glucose system and make it better again. As a commentator has said - I think it was the pharmacist Suzy Cohen, along with others, type two is not about a lack of metformin, taking it does not make us better again. (Better in this context, meaning 'fixed'.) And as Dr Fung says, the main way, the key way, to deal with a dietary disease is with diet. Can't get away from that. (Dr Fung says it way more indelicately than that - which I love him for, but I won't be so indelicate on a British-based forum!) I met an 84 year old recently who had had type two since he was 40. He was still trucking along, and was on insulin, and did not lower his carbs, had not lowered his carbs significantly, ever. But, I was driving him to the renal clinic. And boy - was he, ah - mood disordered, (takes one to know one when seen?) I would say. As he had not eaten, nor taken his insulin because he had left it in my car whilst at the renal clinic. And it was a loooong car trip there and back. (He spent the last hour barking, "You are lost! You are lost!" to me. and scoffing. Loved that scoffing! Which may be partially true, me being a lost soul?, but I did, actually, know where I lived, contrary to his opinion of me on that subject.) Anyway - the moral of that tale - ignore the dietary aspect of a dietary disease at your own peril! In terms of quality of life. (And those driving you?) But, you may still be long-lived with the help of meds. [/QUOTE]
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