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sallybee

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Hi,

Im really confused, in fact so confused tbat ive just had a yummy binge-!

I got given a couple of booklets by Diabetes nurse, but these just conttadict each other. According to one i should eat approx 30° Carbs, in the other, it restricts them. So what did you do?

And then theres driving.; Can I?

And then theres the monotoring. My instinct is that its going to be incredibly hard for monitoring if i dont have a monitor....
How do you manage


And finally, i take a load of other meds, and am already coping some vile side effects, is metformin full of side effectd or is it a simple drug ?
 
NHS is not good at diets. Read around this forum for better advice.

You have to pass a driving test but if you have a licence then you can drive and with type 2 you don't have to inform DVLA in most cases.

https://www.gov.uk/diabetes-driving

You will not be issued with a monitor unless you are on the stronger drugs to control your diabetes. The rest of us buy our own.

Metformin does have side effects which is why it is known as Metfartin by sufferers. Metformin SR (slow release) has fewer side effects.
 
The squire has nailed it. Get on to SR Metformin, buy a meter and read around .... or if you like, ask questions

I won't ask what that "yummy binge" was all about
 
Hi and welcome.

@daisy1 will be along soon with some general advice for newly diagnosed. Meanwhile, take some deep breaths and read round this forum then ask questions. Everyone is confused at first, but it will all fall into place soon. Best thing is not to panic.

Get yourself a meter. This will be your best friend and is essential if you want to control this disease. Have a look here. http://www.homehealth-uk.com/medical/blood_glucose_monitor_testing.htm Meters themselves aren't expensive and some are free. However, the testing strips are expensive, so best to go for the ones you can afford to replace often. The Codefree has the cheapest ones and may of us on here use it.
 
@sallybee

Hello again Sally To make your thread complete, although I have already given you this on your other thread, I am repeating the information we give to new members which I hope you found helpful.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 130,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
I got given a couple of booklets by Diabetes nurse, but these just conttadict each other. According to one i should eat approx 30° Carbs, in the other, it restricts them. So what did you do?
Initially I listened to the NHS...............carbs with everything but found I couldn't get my Blood sugar levels down. It wasn't until I found this site and went on the suggested Low Carb, High Fat diet that my B S levels came down and I lost weight as well.
And then theres driving.; Can I?
Type 2 do not have to tell the DVLA. If you are on medication it is classed as controlled diabetes
And then theres the monotoring. My instinct is that its going to be incredibly hard for monitoring if i dont have a monitor....
How do you manage
With difficulty. You must get yourself a monitor but just watch out for the cost of strips and Lancets. There are manufacturers that will give you a monitor for free, that way you will have to buy the strips and Lancets from them or if you look on Ebay you may get them cheaper.
And finally, i take a load of other meds, and am already coping some vile side effects, is metformin full of side effectd or is it a simple drug ?
Metformin gives you the s**ts at first but after about 4 weeks I found It didn't affect me anymore. Lots of members have or are suffering the same thing.
 

Does that mean 30g carbs per meal or a day.Many here will advise a low carb diet but basically we have to find out for ourselves what we can or can't eat as it differs with everyone you could find a glucose meter a help for that.
Metformin can cause tummy problems which you obviously don't need when you are getting bad side effects with other medication you take There is a slow release version which has less side effects so you may be better asking your GP for that
 


Hi @sallybee and welcome.

It might be an idea to check for any drug interactions and see if there is anything happening. Some drugs can raise blood sugars, likely suspects are steroids, antidepressant, antibiotics to name a few.

Try this drug interaction checker.

http://www.drugs.com/drug_interactions.html
 
The other posts have already provided good advice. Ignore any NHS advice to have so many carbs. In theory you don't need to have any as you can get the glucose you need from other foods but that is extreme. Just keep the carbs down and use a meter to guide you as to what level keeps your blood sugar down within the good range
 
Hi and welcome,there is plenty to read here,and you will learn a lot.
 
Hi, welcome

Have a read of the thread linked in my sig below (and the other links if you like), and think about getting Trudi Deakin's new XPert guide.

Good luck and ask any questions.
 
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