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Joy05

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Hi ,
Me again .....I was only diagnosed 2 weeks ago , and have been given all the relevant information from my DN . Monitor, tablets etc . I'm also being seen at the hospital for my arteries in my leg. I've cut out so much since I found out ( food wise) but I don't seem to be getting anywhere , first thing in the morning my bs are still about 10 , after eating they tend to go between 15-17 . And that is with very little/ no carbs . I keep reading about people who have managed to stabilise there bs and I've been told it will happen in time ! I'm just confused why it isn't happening now . ? I'm doing what I've been told .
I feel that food has lost all enjoyment and that I'm going without food I enjoy for nothing !
I hope this all makes sense xx
 
Unfortunately tablets and diet don't produce instant miracles it takes time and patience to make a difference, as too not enjoying your food may I suggest you take a look at the Low Carb part of the forum where there are some really yummy recipe's, :)
 
Sorry you seem to be getting nowhere. You haven't told us much detail about your food and others here have already pinpointed things that might be increasing your BS. Have you seen @daisy1's excellent guide? I'll tag her to pass it on.
*edit* I see a week ago you posted "I'm going to have 3 roast potatoes . I'm sure that won't even bring me to 40 . Maybe able to squeeze a Yorkshire pud bin as well !" We all have ideas of what low-carbing means and maybe you're not quite there yet. Keep focused!
 
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H, I think you need to be a little patient - Rome wasn't built in a day, and you need to remember that some of our members are pre-diabetic, so may get down to better levels faster than others who have higher glucose levels/more issues to deal with - so don't be disheartened. It's not some sort of competition, so you need to concentrate on your body and your diabetes as that 's all that really matters for you - not what's happing to someone else.

What are you eating? Are you testing both before meals and two hours after, we need to see both figures to see how big spikes you're getting. But it sounds as if you need to be reducing sugars and carbs further, and your meter should be telling you which are the ones that cause the highest rises from your pre meal levels, and are the ones you need to be reducing or avoiding. There's no need to feel you're depriving yourself as there are plenty of lovely tasty foods you can still eat, see my examples here:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/carbs.83967/#post-945414

Once you've got things under control you can start looking for suitable lower carb alternatives to your favourite foods.

Robbity
 
@Joy05

Hello again Joy. This is the information referred to above and, although I have already given it to you, here it is in a convenient place for you to see it as a reminder.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi ,
Me again .....I was only diagnosed 2 weeks ago , and have been given all the relevant information from my DN . Monitor, tablets etc . I'm also being seen at the hospital for my arteries in my leg. I've cut out so much since I found out ( food wise) but I don't seem to be getting anywhere , first thing in the morning my bs are still about 10 , after eating they tend to go between 15-17 . And that is with very little/ no carbs . I keep reading about people who have managed to stabilise there bs and I've been told it will happen in time ! I'm just confused why it isn't happening now . ? I'm doing what I've been told .
I feel that food has lost all enjoyment and that I'm going without food I enjoy for nothing !
I hope this all makes sense xx
From what I've read on the forum, it can take up to 3 weeks of strict low carbing for BGs to come down. If that doesn't happen, then the person may have a different type of diabetes and needs further blood tests for that.

I don't feel deprived of foods I used to enjoy because I am loving all the cream, cheese, yoghurt, berries, meat, protein and salads.
 
Thank you all for replying . I think what I'm confused over is how this all works .....I get up every morning at 6 and my first bs is usually about 10 , I then have a coffee and a small individual box of Kellogg's cereal . I have noticed since starting my tablets my 2 hour after breakfast readings are going down,
Eg Friday 17.1
Saturday 16.3 etc and so on and
Today 14.6 . Is this how it's meant to go ?
Also do the tablets help my bs levels ?
I hope I'm making sense x
 
Thank you all for replying . I think what I'm confused over is how this all works .....I get up every morning at 6 and my first bs is usually about 10 , I then have a coffee and a small individual box of Kellogg's cereal . I have noticed since starting my tablets my 2 hour after breakfast readings are going down,
Eg Friday 17.1
Saturday 16.3 etc and so on and
Today 14.6 . Is this how it's meant to go ?
Also do the tablets help my bs levels ?
I hope I'm making sense x
If you cut out the cereal and any other high carb foods you should see your BGs come down. I eat yoghurt and berries for breakfast. Eggs and bacon are also good choices.

The tablets don't help BG levels by very much, the main thing is to reduce carbs.

If you can't reduce your carbs then the next best option would be to go on insulin, because the longer your levels are above 8, the more likely you are to get complications like blindness, kidney failure and amputations. Sorry if this scares you but I think you need to know the risks. I don't want you to get complications.

Here is some info about insulin. IMO it is safer than the non-metformin diabetes drugs (more info about that at the website below):
http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/15478720.php
 
Apart from the cereal I'm not having any carbs . Egg and bacon at lunch and usually some kind of meat with veg or salad for tea . I'm such a fussy eater , don't like yogurts ,berries, fruit , except for bananas and there no good .,I do have complications already, apparently I've been diabetic for about 3 yrs , I now have hardening of the arteries . I really need to get the hang of this . Thank you x
 
Apart from the cereal I'm not having any carbs . Egg and bacon at lunch and usually some kind of meat with veg or salad for tea . I'm such a fussy eater , don't like yogurts ,berries, fruit , except for bananas and there no good .,I do have complications already, apparently I've been diabetic for about 3 yrs , I now have hardening of the arteries . I really need to get the hang of this . Thank you x
Ok that's good that you are low carbing at the other meals. Your levels are coming down so hopefully you will get under 8 soon.

I used to weigh 22 stone and once I got down to 12 stone I could eat carbs and my BGs stayed low. So I think any extra weight is a part of the equation. These days I low carb because it makes me feel better and it helps me lose the remaining weight.

Try not to worry, I know it;s easier said than done but I think things are likely to look better in a few weeks. Also ask your doctor if anything can be done to treat your complications. If they say no, ask for a referral to a specialist.
 
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