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<blockquote data-quote="JRT" data-source="post: 2286804" data-attributes="member: 520947"><p>Tannith, I do need to clarify one point. My care home denied they had a person who was a member of staff in the building who was believed to have Covid (later confirmed). That said considering the potential risk a deep clean was only being done 3 days after event and there was no cleaning of high impact areas such as door handles etc. That may have been how it got got into the building. It certainly took hold and as I say approximately a third of residents died. I know the floor I worked on( where infected staff member was) 6 residents died. Something went very wrong in that building,from the care homes perspective I dont know whether it was ignorance at the time or bad luck or both. Initially the government were saying it was a flu like virus whereas now we know better. What concerns me most is their lack of transparency initially stemming from denying playing down fact a staff member infected. Staff have left replaced with newer ones. The manager was sacked. Due to lockdown relatives who visited daily are not there and so not questioning where residents are.</p><p>The government did indeed bulk buy empty beds in care homes to remove bed blockers in NHS. Most were not tested. If they were often the results were not available until after discharge. Still the NHS wasnt overwhelmed. The argument now is who to blame. Some have questioned why these patients weren't isolated in nightingale hospitals until safe to transfer. Good question. I think most have read an initial comment from a government official that some old people may die. Probably Cummings. It's hard to believe that they could look at what was happening in the rest of Europe,particularly in care homes and not be aware. Maybe they didnt want bodies on the streets or the horrific overwhelming of services we saw elsewhere. Unfortunately it happened but behind closed doors.</p><p>I think most people have a healthy cynicism when it comes to politics. Most imagine that at a time of great national crisis they will get their act together. They didnt. The PPE was on it's way, world beating test and trace etc etc. Before it was more widely known I knew without doubt they were lying about care homes. It shook me to the core. Since then I have looked closely at what they say and why. Even the government admit their main interest is the economy. They really only pay lip service to needs of most vulnerable and have done for a decade. I wouldn't want anyone to be hiding indoors terrified. I do think people need to think carefully about what they do and how they do it. We also need to be aware that old rules may not apply. I know diabetes uk are petitioning government for more support for diabetics. Hopefully successful but until then each one of us has to negotiate what's best for us and it's a pretty uneven playing field. Sometimes it can be exhausting and draining. I personally step back and look at certain groups such as government employees and dentists who are still working in a way to minimise risk. My dental check up is cancelled by dentist for foreseeable future. I know that dentistry is high risk. I certainly dont think however that using public transport other than for dire need is a good idea. As I've said before this virus will either disappear in a puff of smoke or an effective safe vaccine found very soon. If not its early days where more is unknown than known and misinformation is rife. I would hate anyone who is vulnerable to become one of the ever growing statistics with lessons will be learned as an epitaph.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JRT, post: 2286804, member: 520947"] Tannith, I do need to clarify one point. My care home denied they had a person who was a member of staff in the building who was believed to have Covid (later confirmed). That said considering the potential risk a deep clean was only being done 3 days after event and there was no cleaning of high impact areas such as door handles etc. That may have been how it got got into the building. It certainly took hold and as I say approximately a third of residents died. I know the floor I worked on( where infected staff member was) 6 residents died. Something went very wrong in that building,from the care homes perspective I dont know whether it was ignorance at the time or bad luck or both. Initially the government were saying it was a flu like virus whereas now we know better. What concerns me most is their lack of transparency initially stemming from denying playing down fact a staff member infected. Staff have left replaced with newer ones. The manager was sacked. Due to lockdown relatives who visited daily are not there and so not questioning where residents are. The government did indeed bulk buy empty beds in care homes to remove bed blockers in NHS. Most were not tested. If they were often the results were not available until after discharge. Still the NHS wasnt overwhelmed. The argument now is who to blame. Some have questioned why these patients weren't isolated in nightingale hospitals until safe to transfer. Good question. I think most have read an initial comment from a government official that some old people may die. Probably Cummings. It's hard to believe that they could look at what was happening in the rest of Europe,particularly in care homes and not be aware. Maybe they didnt want bodies on the streets or the horrific overwhelming of services we saw elsewhere. Unfortunately it happened but behind closed doors. I think most people have a healthy cynicism when it comes to politics. Most imagine that at a time of great national crisis they will get their act together. They didnt. The PPE was on it's way, world beating test and trace etc etc. Before it was more widely known I knew without doubt they were lying about care homes. It shook me to the core. Since then I have looked closely at what they say and why. Even the government admit their main interest is the economy. They really only pay lip service to needs of most vulnerable and have done for a decade. I wouldn't want anyone to be hiding indoors terrified. I do think people need to think carefully about what they do and how they do it. We also need to be aware that old rules may not apply. I know diabetes uk are petitioning government for more support for diabetics. Hopefully successful but until then each one of us has to negotiate what's best for us and it's a pretty uneven playing field. Sometimes it can be exhausting and draining. I personally step back and look at certain groups such as government employees and dentists who are still working in a way to minimise risk. My dental check up is cancelled by dentist for foreseeable future. I know that dentistry is high risk. I certainly dont think however that using public transport other than for dire need is a good idea. As I've said before this virus will either disappear in a puff of smoke or an effective safe vaccine found very soon. If not its early days where more is unknown than known and misinformation is rife. I would hate anyone who is vulnerable to become one of the ever growing statistics with lessons will be learned as an epitaph. [/QUOTE]
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