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<blockquote data-quote="Max68" data-source="post: 2290948" data-attributes="member: 521172"><p>There are several problems for diabetics which is why we seem to have been left in the cold.</p><p></p><p>Firstly I, on advice from my Union, called the Equality & Advisory Support Service over a month ago to ask if I was covered with regard to discrimination through disability. I was told by a very sympathetic advisor that basically it's down to which Judge you would get at any Tribunal because Diabetes isn't written in black and white when it comes to disability discrimination. I think the assumption was that Type 1 would be more likely to be included than Type 2 (not my words).</p><p></p><p>It's down to the fact that diabetes affects people in different ways and in many ways is a hidden condition to others, much like when I had my work tribunal against the DWP with my Vertigo. If people don't "see" it then it doesn't exist!! For instance and I apologise if anyone is upset by my example, but take me who still plays football with the kids at school and then take someone else who may be in a wheelchair with the condition. A Judge will look at how the condition may impact you, so pre covid there is no way on earth that I could argue that my diabetes stops me from working. It may change as Covid continues of course but again it's all down to a Judge and a Tribunal at the time of writing.</p><p></p><p>Secondly with regard to Statutory Sick Pay and Welfare payments, as long as we remain in the Clinically Vulnerable Group rather than the Shielded Group we have difficulty because we were never told to officially shield. We were told to work from home if possible, but now the Government wants people to go back to work. Again it would/may be different if the Government said "all back to work except for those with the following conditions who are required to continue to work from home and NOT re-enter the workplace until further notice". Unfortunately they are not saying that, they are using this "if the work place is safe" situation which you cannot prove it is or it isn't. Let's face it no work place is going to be 100% safe with Covid. It might be for one day or a week but certainly the risk increases for every day you are there and the risk also increases as the year goes on and the weather changes. It's like what are the chances of you having a car crash on your way to work? If you work 5 days a week the likely hood is far higher than if you work two days.</p><p></p><p>It makes me laugh when the Government start banging on about mental health being affected by being stuck at home. At least at home you can stay reasonably safe and can make your own decisions re risk. It's the one thing that makes me really nervous about going back and that's the fact that I am "always" going to be on edge. The asymptomatic reality of this virus means that I will never relax at all constantly, permanently wondering if I am going to fall ill within the next 6 days. That's the problem because you "don't know" if you have been infected or not and that means you will never be 100% sure if you are covid free. Sounds dramatic but it's probably as close as I will ever get to experience being on death row, never knowing when the Governor is going to call but you could be there for years or a couple of weeks!!</p><p></p><p>The problem is no body whether it's the Employers, Unions, GP's or whoever is going by anything else bar what has proven to be flawed Government Advice. I wouldn't even by a car of Boris!! Someone somewhere needs to take responsibility, even if it's to make a legal challenge because it makes no sense that the risk to the clinically vulnerable can change from March to July/August when the same pesky virus is still out there.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Max68, post: 2290948, member: 521172"] There are several problems for diabetics which is why we seem to have been left in the cold. Firstly I, on advice from my Union, called the Equality & Advisory Support Service over a month ago to ask if I was covered with regard to discrimination through disability. I was told by a very sympathetic advisor that basically it's down to which Judge you would get at any Tribunal because Diabetes isn't written in black and white when it comes to disability discrimination. I think the assumption was that Type 1 would be more likely to be included than Type 2 (not my words). It's down to the fact that diabetes affects people in different ways and in many ways is a hidden condition to others, much like when I had my work tribunal against the DWP with my Vertigo. If people don't "see" it then it doesn't exist!! For instance and I apologise if anyone is upset by my example, but take me who still plays football with the kids at school and then take someone else who may be in a wheelchair with the condition. A Judge will look at how the condition may impact you, so pre covid there is no way on earth that I could argue that my diabetes stops me from working. It may change as Covid continues of course but again it's all down to a Judge and a Tribunal at the time of writing. Secondly with regard to Statutory Sick Pay and Welfare payments, as long as we remain in the Clinically Vulnerable Group rather than the Shielded Group we have difficulty because we were never told to officially shield. We were told to work from home if possible, but now the Government wants people to go back to work. Again it would/may be different if the Government said "all back to work except for those with the following conditions who are required to continue to work from home and NOT re-enter the workplace until further notice". Unfortunately they are not saying that, they are using this "if the work place is safe" situation which you cannot prove it is or it isn't. Let's face it no work place is going to be 100% safe with Covid. It might be for one day or a week but certainly the risk increases for every day you are there and the risk also increases as the year goes on and the weather changes. It's like what are the chances of you having a car crash on your way to work? If you work 5 days a week the likely hood is far higher than if you work two days. It makes me laugh when the Government start banging on about mental health being affected by being stuck at home. At least at home you can stay reasonably safe and can make your own decisions re risk. It's the one thing that makes me really nervous about going back and that's the fact that I am "always" going to be on edge. The asymptomatic reality of this virus means that I will never relax at all constantly, permanently wondering if I am going to fall ill within the next 6 days. That's the problem because you "don't know" if you have been infected or not and that means you will never be 100% sure if you are covid free. Sounds dramatic but it's probably as close as I will ever get to experience being on death row, never knowing when the Governor is going to call but you could be there for years or a couple of weeks!! The problem is no body whether it's the Employers, Unions, GP's or whoever is going by anything else bar what has proven to be flawed Government Advice. I wouldn't even by a car of Boris!! Someone somewhere needs to take responsibility, even if it's to make a legal challenge because it makes no sense that the risk to the clinically vulnerable can change from March to July/August when the same pesky virus is still out there. [/QUOTE]
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