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<blockquote data-quote="NicoleC1971" data-source="post: 2293215" data-attributes="member: 365308"><p>Please don't assume that someone who puts the other side is heartless or lacking in concern.</p><p> I get that there is anxiety. I was anxious as I continued to work until I was furloughed when my workplace closed.</p><p>We have been told to be anxious and IMO the wearing of masks and the ever changing rules keep us anxious/concerned because if this virus is still out there and it is and it will be in the coming months AND you fear you are at high risk of death or serious illness then of course you would be doubtful about mingling again at your place of work. You will know that not everyone is scrupulous about their hygiene, social distancing or masks. The media has now gone from reporting actual deaths (very low) to case numbers (rising but so far not leading to more hospitalisations or deaths</p><p>But this level of fear seems unjustified based on the actual case fatality rates which even in an apparently high death rate country like ours are still at 0.08 % (88 in 100,000 ) with that risk concentrated in the over 80s who have very weak immune systems due to their co morbidities. For comparison I've listed the recent pandemics of our age</p><p>disease Estimated case fatality rate (CFR)</p><p>SARS-CoV 10% (NOT THE CURRENT VERSION)</p><p>Venkatesh and Memish (2004)</p><p>Munster et al. (2020)</p><p>MERS-CoV 34%</p><p>Munster et al. (2020)</p><p><strong>Seasonal flu (US) 0.1 to 0.2%</strong></p><p>US CDC</p><p>Ebola 50%</p><p>40% in the 2013-16 outbreak</p><p></p><p>Isn't it valid to question why everyone is so anxious and yes I know I am in the minority here and in doing so I am not being 'supportive' of your concerns which seems to mean I won't just agree with everyone that is all too scary and that we need to go and hide for the forseeable future.</p><p></p><p>WHO (2020)</p><p>Shultz et al. (2016)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="NicoleC1971, post: 2293215, member: 365308"] Please don't assume that someone who puts the other side is heartless or lacking in concern. I get that there is anxiety. I was anxious as I continued to work until I was furloughed when my workplace closed. We have been told to be anxious and IMO the wearing of masks and the ever changing rules keep us anxious/concerned because if this virus is still out there and it is and it will be in the coming months AND you fear you are at high risk of death or serious illness then of course you would be doubtful about mingling again at your place of work. You will know that not everyone is scrupulous about their hygiene, social distancing or masks. The media has now gone from reporting actual deaths (very low) to case numbers (rising but so far not leading to more hospitalisations or deaths But this level of fear seems unjustified based on the actual case fatality rates which even in an apparently high death rate country like ours are still at 0.08 % (88 in 100,000 ) with that risk concentrated in the over 80s who have very weak immune systems due to their co morbidities. For comparison I've listed the recent pandemics of our age disease Estimated case fatality rate (CFR) SARS-CoV 10% (NOT THE CURRENT VERSION) Venkatesh and Memish (2004) Munster et al. (2020) MERS-CoV 34% Munster et al. (2020) [B]Seasonal flu (US) 0.1 to 0.2%[/B] US CDC Ebola 50% 40% in the 2013-16 outbreak Isn't it valid to question why everyone is so anxious and yes I know I am in the minority here and in doing so I am not being 'supportive' of your concerns which seems to mean I won't just agree with everyone that is all too scary and that we need to go and hide for the forseeable future. WHO (2020) Shultz et al. (2016) [/QUOTE]
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