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<blockquote data-quote="NicoleC1971" data-source="post: 2308928" data-attributes="member: 365308"><p>Where is your reference for government clearing out the geriatric wards to care homes? That would indeed be a scandal just as it was back in March. It did lead to an increase on excess mortality but less than in the year 2000 and only slightly more than flu in 2018.</p><p>I appreciate that the fear is being ramped up and as a 'vulnerable' I am keeping an eye on illness and deaths and would want to help my 72 year old diabetic dad, heart diseased and diabetic 80+ father in law and ancient grandma to protect themselves if that was their choice but personally I still see no reason not to carry on working and living my life and certainly do not want my niece at medical school nor my kids to miss out on such a crucial stage in their lives on my behalf and I think it is morally wrong to do so.</p><p>As we go into Autumn and Winter Covid will be out there alongside the usual upper respiratory suspects as well as heart attacks/cancer/suicides/alcoholism. Sadly a certain number of people, mainly the very elderly with co morbidities, will be vulnerable possibly less of them given the earlier spike in deaths. That means the vast majority of us will be fine if the virus behaves now as it did before.</p><p>On this 2nd season (not second wave) we should have learned a few lessons about balancing the risks (many) and benefits (few) of mitigation measures like lockdowns and face masks.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="NicoleC1971, post: 2308928, member: 365308"] Where is your reference for government clearing out the geriatric wards to care homes? That would indeed be a scandal just as it was back in March. It did lead to an increase on excess mortality but less than in the year 2000 and only slightly more than flu in 2018. I appreciate that the fear is being ramped up and as a 'vulnerable' I am keeping an eye on illness and deaths and would want to help my 72 year old diabetic dad, heart diseased and diabetic 80+ father in law and ancient grandma to protect themselves if that was their choice but personally I still see no reason not to carry on working and living my life and certainly do not want my niece at medical school nor my kids to miss out on such a crucial stage in their lives on my behalf and I think it is morally wrong to do so. As we go into Autumn and Winter Covid will be out there alongside the usual upper respiratory suspects as well as heart attacks/cancer/suicides/alcoholism. Sadly a certain number of people, mainly the very elderly with co morbidities, will be vulnerable possibly less of them given the earlier spike in deaths. That means the vast majority of us will be fine if the virus behaves now as it did before. On this 2nd season (not second wave) we should have learned a few lessons about balancing the risks (many) and benefits (few) of mitigation measures like lockdowns and face masks. [/QUOTE]
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