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<blockquote data-quote="CatManRob" data-source="post: 2131614" data-attributes="member: 514313"><p>If you think that's bad, you should see the suggested diet handed out wheen diagnosed by your doctor, labelled "Living with Type 2 Diabetes" in partnership with the NHS.</p><p></p><p>One of the suggestions is a "slice of white bread with jam". Now I hate to point this out, but whoever added this to the suggested diet clearly has no idea which foods would raise an insulin spike.</p><p></p><p>What everybody shuld be aware of is that qualified doctors (GP's) do not study nutrition during their education as a medical professional, so the last person you should ask for advice on dietary advice is your doctor.</p><p></p><p>You should consult a qualified nutritionist, but be aware that they are obliged to advise you according to the accepted policies, such as recommending eggs, which you certainly should avoid & red meat. In short, they are forced by their governing body to 'suggest' a diet that is influenced by lobbying groups and it's not necessarily in the interests of the public.</p><p></p><p>A typical example is the lobbying of the cattle industry in the US, which succeeded in blocking a trial of a plant-based diet on Texas, only for the organisation to take it to another state and fund it themselves. The results spoke for themselves and were taken back to the original state. </p><p></p><p>Another good example is the practice of using Chlorine to bleach chicken! Not exactly in the consumer interest, but it's a cheap way of getting rid of the excrement sprayed everywhere during the slaughtering process.</p><p></p><p>I've replaced my animal protein with beans, peas and lentils and as a result, don't consume antibiotics & growth hormones that are routinely given to livestock before they appear at the supermarket.</p><p></p><p>Personally, I'm trying a veggie higher fat diet, with zero processed foods, using intermittent fasting to improve my insulin resistance. So it's sort of ketogenic, but not full of animal product. I basically eat one meal a day to help my insulin resistance calm down, while bringing down my A1C below 48mmol/L.</p><p></p><p>Unlike practically every 'diet' on the market, this type has had zero large or small scale trials, so I'm compiling data and blood test data on monthly data myself, which is somewhat frustrating as I'm doing it alone!</p><p></p><p>Priority #1 A1C which I'm level expecting to be about 43 by 18th September (48 MMOL/MOL is the cut-off point for diagnosing Diabetes)</p><p></p><p>Then there's the following to provide more baseline data:</p><p>Framming Test: Score Required (indicates likelyhood of heart attack risk) Scores range from 0-1000. If you are above 600 you are in big trouble.</p><p>CAC Test: Scan required to measure calcium in the arteries. </p><p>HOM-IR Test: Fasting Glucose Level / Insulin Level = Score Example 95/1.0 with A1c @ 5.1</p><p>Test required for PCSK9 to see if liver receptors are working (Thus high LDL levels in my case.)</p><p></p><p>The HOM-IR test is particularly useful in determining in working out if your blood sugar is specifically the problem, or if your insulin resistance is the real issue in identifying progress with dealing with your condition.</p><p></p><p>Short version is you have to take a level of responsibility to educate yourself, because what with vested interests, lobbying, and shall we say dishonest government institutions, our health is our priority and not industries.</p><p></p><p>But when I read the official diet guidelines that were recommended in the material given to me in my GP office, it was only then that it's very easy to see why people with diabetes are not treated properly. It's ridiculous.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CatManRob, post: 2131614, member: 514313"] If you think that's bad, you should see the suggested diet handed out wheen diagnosed by your doctor, labelled "Living with Type 2 Diabetes" in partnership with the NHS. One of the suggestions is a "slice of white bread with jam". Now I hate to point this out, but whoever added this to the suggested diet clearly has no idea which foods would raise an insulin spike. What everybody shuld be aware of is that qualified doctors (GP's) do not study nutrition during their education as a medical professional, so the last person you should ask for advice on dietary advice is your doctor. You should consult a qualified nutritionist, but be aware that they are obliged to advise you according to the accepted policies, such as recommending eggs, which you certainly should avoid & red meat. In short, they are forced by their governing body to 'suggest' a diet that is influenced by lobbying groups and it's not necessarily in the interests of the public. A typical example is the lobbying of the cattle industry in the US, which succeeded in blocking a trial of a plant-based diet on Texas, only for the organisation to take it to another state and fund it themselves. The results spoke for themselves and were taken back to the original state. Another good example is the practice of using Chlorine to bleach chicken! Not exactly in the consumer interest, but it's a cheap way of getting rid of the excrement sprayed everywhere during the slaughtering process. I've replaced my animal protein with beans, peas and lentils and as a result, don't consume antibiotics & growth hormones that are routinely given to livestock before they appear at the supermarket. Personally, I'm trying a veggie higher fat diet, with zero processed foods, using intermittent fasting to improve my insulin resistance. So it's sort of ketogenic, but not full of animal product. I basically eat one meal a day to help my insulin resistance calm down, while bringing down my A1C below 48mmol/L. Unlike practically every 'diet' on the market, this type has had zero large or small scale trials, so I'm compiling data and blood test data on monthly data myself, which is somewhat frustrating as I'm doing it alone! Priority #1 A1C which I'm level expecting to be about 43 by 18th September (48 MMOL/MOL is the cut-off point for diagnosing Diabetes) Then there's the following to provide more baseline data: Framming Test: Score Required (indicates likelyhood of heart attack risk) Scores range from 0-1000. If you are above 600 you are in big trouble. CAC Test: Scan required to measure calcium in the arteries. HOM-IR Test: Fasting Glucose Level / Insulin Level = Score Example 95/1.0 with A1c @ 5.1 Test required for PCSK9 to see if liver receptors are working (Thus high LDL levels in my case.) The HOM-IR test is particularly useful in determining in working out if your blood sugar is specifically the problem, or if your insulin resistance is the real issue in identifying progress with dealing with your condition. Short version is you have to take a level of responsibility to educate yourself, because what with vested interests, lobbying, and shall we say dishonest government institutions, our health is our priority and not industries. But when I read the official diet guidelines that were recommended in the material given to me in my GP office, it was only then that it's very easy to see why people with diabetes are not treated properly. It's ridiculous. [/QUOTE]
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