Hello, I was wondering if a person with insulin resistance and polycystic ovaries should avoid all dairy food altogether or simply choose low-fat or goat/sheep dairy instead of cow's. Same goes for gluten. As far as I know, I don't have the whole PCOS syndrome, but I do have polycystic ovaries and get acne, facial hairs and water retention in my lower body.
Dairy, gluten and polycystic ovaries
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I have PCOS, “full blown” if there’s such a thing as it’s a syndrome so you can have some or all of the symptoms, I also have T2 & Psoriasis- all can be connected especially T2. I’ve never avoided gluten as a thing but I do eat keto so don’t eat much if any gluten anyway. I do eat all dairy but not a lot, not because of my PCOS but because too much dairy I put weight on or it stalls my weight loss.it also can irritate my psoriasis but only during a flare up
I suppose all you can do is eliminate things one at a time from your diet and see if it makes any difference to your symptoms or how you feel.
I suppose all you can do is eliminate things one at a time from your diet and see if it makes any difference to your symptoms or how you feel.
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Hi @chrysap, veteran of PCOS here.
Sadly I didn't understand the dietary connection back in the dark days when saturated fat was considered the bogey-man behind dietary disease -not ultra processed food, and excess carbs, particularly in the form of sugar which can be toxic to some in high doses. (And if you have PCOS - that's you! Is my understanding at least.)
Where did you get the idea that dairy food was bad for your insulin resistance-based disease? Honestly! If you got it from a medical professional I would be very interested to hear what they said to you regarding the best diet for getting your hormones back on track, and your insulin levels normalised so your cells are lovely and senstive to insulin again.
And your ovaries functioning normally! Which is the goal, right?
If you are dairy tolerant - and everyone knows intimately if they are or not! (Because you will surely have what is delicately referred to as 'gastro intestinal issues' when you eat it if you are not dairy-tolerant.) Dairy is a great source of protein and healthy fat which orginally comes in a bundle from mother nature. We humans just helped it along by churning it and curdling it and beating it and....
Protein and fat are not the source of dietary issues for you - carbs are. Excess carbs. And All the strange ingredients in ultra processsed food. Especially if it turns out you have a bad reaction to wheat products (the wheat we eat these days is not the same that are forebears ate - we have changed it to better yields, and many folks have a bad reaction to the changed proteins and so on in the new wheat - called dwarf wheat. I know about this because I am one of them, and have been trying to convince my fellow bloated belly family members of what they are getting bloated from!)
Sadly I didn't understand the dietary connection back in the dark days when saturated fat was considered the bogey-man behind dietary disease -not ultra processed food, and excess carbs, particularly in the form of sugar which can be toxic to some in high doses. (And if you have PCOS - that's you! Is my understanding at least.)
Where did you get the idea that dairy food was bad for your insulin resistance-based disease? Honestly! If you got it from a medical professional I would be very interested to hear what they said to you regarding the best diet for getting your hormones back on track, and your insulin levels normalised so your cells are lovely and senstive to insulin again.
And your ovaries functioning normally! Which is the goal, right?
If you are dairy tolerant - and everyone knows intimately if they are or not! (Because you will surely have what is delicately referred to as 'gastro intestinal issues' when you eat it if you are not dairy-tolerant.) Dairy is a great source of protein and healthy fat which orginally comes in a bundle from mother nature. We humans just helped it along by churning it and curdling it and beating it and....
Protein and fat are not the source of dietary issues for you - carbs are. Excess carbs. And All the strange ingredients in ultra processsed food. Especially if it turns out you have a bad reaction to wheat products (the wheat we eat these days is not the same that are forebears ate - we have changed it to better yields, and many folks have a bad reaction to the changed proteins and so on in the new wheat - called dwarf wheat. I know about this because I am one of them, and have been trying to convince my fellow bloated belly family members of what they are getting bloated from!)
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Ah yes, the weight issue. Thanks @lovinglife for bringing that up.
It is an intrinsic part of PCOS-ness, and where finding out about weight gain and loss comes in. I forget cos I'm an older lady now, and weight issues are relatively easier at least for me to keep control of since having a low carb way of eating (whereas my blood glucose is not! I might add.As in easy to keep control of.As in it isn't.) But I read a LOT of books on how we get fat, and how we get normal weighted, and I applied those theories about how we get fat, and how we get normal weighted onto my own self and body, and it worked, for me at least. Always worth a try?
The wheat thing I mentioned above, re dangerous levels (to ones health, and fertility ie PCOS for women) was dramatic for me, which is not uncommon if the 'Wheat Belly' information is to be believed. (And I believe it. He, the author gets massses of happy feedback from folks who lost their bloated belly when ditching wheat.) I have explained plenty of times that for me it's not gluten, it's wheat. To an aunty, who rolled her eyes at me who interpreted my low carb non wheat eating diet as no gluten, apparently for being so dietarily difficult, "Well, I have type two diabetes, aunty. So it's not me being precious." I didn't bother telling her about my poor old cyst covered ovaries back in the day.
Big insulin response from eating wheat products. And too much insulin, causes the cells to stop being sensitive to it, which is the health mode, is the culprit here behind PCOS. Anyway, insulin response to heavy-carbs generally. (I'm not talking brocolli, obviously, but chips, crisps, breads, baked goods, sugar heavy produccts.) (oh and sugary drinks! Not to be not mentioned.)
Anyway. Ways of eating. Always good when having a dietary disease that is causing your body to malfunction big -time, is to get up close and personal with your way of eating. Keep a food and drink (and exercise - it might be relevant for you) journal. Follow the incraesing or decreasing, or stable progress of your ovaries into healthy cyst-free ones along with your way of eating and drinking.
And yeah - monitor the affects of different food and drink (and exercise but I put in in paranthesis on purpose) on your weight and health, and therefore ovaries/fertility/hormone balance. Is my suggestion. Hope this isn't coming on too strong? Veterans to insulin resistance based dietary diseases can come across this way?
It is an intrinsic part of PCOS-ness, and where finding out about weight gain and loss comes in. I forget cos I'm an older lady now, and weight issues are relatively easier at least for me to keep control of since having a low carb way of eating (whereas my blood glucose is not! I might add.As in easy to keep control of.As in it isn't.) But I read a LOT of books on how we get fat, and how we get normal weighted, and I applied those theories about how we get fat, and how we get normal weighted onto my own self and body, and it worked, for me at least. Always worth a try?
The wheat thing I mentioned above, re dangerous levels (to ones health, and fertility ie PCOS for women) was dramatic for me, which is not uncommon if the 'Wheat Belly' information is to be believed. (And I believe it. He, the author gets massses of happy feedback from folks who lost their bloated belly when ditching wheat.) I have explained plenty of times that for me it's not gluten, it's wheat. To an aunty, who rolled her eyes at me who interpreted my low carb non wheat eating diet as no gluten, apparently for being so dietarily difficult, "Well, I have type two diabetes, aunty. So it's not me being precious." I didn't bother telling her about my poor old cyst covered ovaries back in the day.
Big insulin response from eating wheat products. And too much insulin, causes the cells to stop being sensitive to it, which is the health mode, is the culprit here behind PCOS. Anyway, insulin response to heavy-carbs generally. (I'm not talking brocolli, obviously, but chips, crisps, breads, baked goods, sugar heavy produccts.) (oh and sugary drinks! Not to be not mentioned.)
Anyway. Ways of eating. Always good when having a dietary disease that is causing your body to malfunction big -time, is to get up close and personal with your way of eating. Keep a food and drink (and exercise - it might be relevant for you) journal. Follow the incraesing or decreasing, or stable progress of your ovaries into healthy cyst-free ones along with your way of eating and drinking.
And yeah - monitor the affects of different food and drink (and exercise but I put in in paranthesis on purpose) on your weight and health, and therefore ovaries/fertility/hormone balance. Is my suggestion. Hope this isn't coming on too strong? Veterans to insulin resistance based dietary diseases can come across this way?
