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janie

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Hi Guys
Just wanted your thoughts please.
Husband diagnosed in November as type 2 but needs insulin after heart attack for three months,
Have been told today by a well intentioned diabetic nurse (not his nurse but a family friend)
that he will inevitably need to go back on Insulin within the next 10 years as Diabetes is Progressive.
After reading this forum I have put him on a low carb diet with excellent results ,
he's losing weight and his nurse is very pleased with him.
He got quite depressed as he thought he was controlling this quite well,
anyone got any thoughts on the prognosis
 
If he keeps his diabetes under control with Hba1c's under 7 ,preferably less ,then this should ward off long term complications.Keep on low carbing and this will definitely help to lower Blood sugar levels and reduce the need for too much medication. I have been told this as well by health care team but am determined to prove them wrong!
 
It is absolutely not progressive, in my opinion, if blood glucose levels are maintained within a normal range. That some HP's still believe it is, is something of a self-fulfilling prophecy given the standard dietary advice.

All the best,

fergus
 
Thank you both for your replies
If it wasn't for this forum I would still be filling him full or carbs
It's quite scary adjusting to new ways, and just wanted long term users opinions
thanks again
Janie
 
fergus said:
It is absolutely not progressive, in my opinion, if blood glucose levels are maintained within a normal range. That some HP's still believe it is, is something of a self-fulfilling prophecy given the standard dietary advice.

All the best,

fergus
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That's refreshing to hear Fergus, the little devil in the back of my mind is telling me 'what's the point', it's all futile, but I like Sue I'm determined to prove the HPs wrong. My sugars have averaged 5.4 for the last 30 days according to my monitor, and 4.7 for the last 14! I'm actually finding the low carb easy peasy, for me will power doesn't even come into it, I know if I eat wahts recommended I'll be in big trouble in 20 years time, and besides all those cravings have just gone!

Hope I'm still able to say this in 2 years time when I'm at target way.
 
Hi DocZoc,

Your results prove that you are doing it exactly right - just make sure you don't over-do it because 4.7 is about as low as you really need to go. In two years time - probably less at your present rate of progress - you'll look back and say, "Wow, I did it". You've proved that you have the determination to succeed and once your body starts to lose those sugar cravings it gets so much easier.
 
Hi Doczoc,

I'm delighted to hear it's working so well for you mate. I think you've already got over one of the biggest hurdles - the craving for ****! It took me quite a bit longer I have to confess.

With those blood sugars and your new diet, the weight will keep falling and you'll be in great shape soon enough. By the way, take a photo of yourself before you lose and more pounds - I didn't and wish I had. Still got some of the clothes though. Ever seen David Byrne in Stop Making Sense?

All the best,

fergus
 
My GP also says it's progressive and that I'll end up on insulin eventually, but I should have shown some progression by now shouldn't I? T2 diagnosed nearly 6 years. In fact, I'm using less metformin and getting better BGs that at first. AND I've stopped Gliclazide altogether.
The idea of T2s progression is fairly recent. I wonder if it co-incides :: with the "eat plenty of complex carbs with every meal" diet? :twisted: :roll: :roll:
 
I agree with Fergus (and everyone else, but especially with Fergus <G>)

Once you have overcome the dietary advice which inevitably leads to decline, well it's not possible to say you will never progress as it depends on many genetic and other factors but it's certainly plausible that you can slow the rate of decline until you die of something unrelated to diabetes.

The longest I know of is 25 years and still off medication, due to a very low carb diet and heroic amounts of cycling, but 5 - 10 years with no decline and sometimes improvements in numbers is not at all uncommon on the internet. It's becoming more common in Real Life but still seldom studied in research papers.

As for Type 1s there are several recipients of 50 year badges. Probably the **** insulins of the past were outmaneuvered by the low carb diets that used to be recommended.
 
Fergus
Why won't any more weight come off at 20 carbs per day? I'm a long way off ideal weight and still at least 4 stones heavier than i was at 25. The ONLY medication I'm using now is Metformin 500 x2 BGs in the 4s though.
 
Hello janie,

As Trinkwasser has already said, there are other factors involved in the progression of
type 2 besides blood sugar control.

However, the body's insulin producing cells are extremely sensitive to high glucose levels,
so keeping blood sugars down will play a major role in slowing any progression.

All the best,
timo.
 
Thanks again everyone,
I knew you would all lift our spirits again ,
By the way went to a cardio re-hab session today and there was a talk by a dietician who gave the usual must go low fat and eat loads of carbs.
when I questioned the fact that most low fat things were higher in sugar she just said ,well thats to make them taste nicer !! I know this was aimed at Heart attack victims but surely even non diabetics shouldnt be filled full of sugars.
 
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