Diabetic nonsense

douglas99 said:

If it ever changes, and I become the minority that do need to inject, I haven't a clue what I'll need to eat then, but I doubt it'll be the same.So the advice sounds right to me.

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You need a T1 to answer you but I believe that you can eat a little more freely providing that you take the appropriate amount of insulin. However the NHS article seemed to be addressing living with T2.

I feel we have hi-jacked this thread so can we get back to daft things other diabetics have said.

Squire Fulwood said:

douglas99 said:

If it ever changes, and I become the minority that do need to inject, I haven't a clue what I'll need to eat then, but I doubt it'll be the same.So the advice sounds right to me.

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You need a T1 to answer you but I believe that you can eat a little more freely providing that you take the appropriate amount of insulin. However the NHS article seemed to be addressing living with T2.

I feel we have hi-jacked this thread so can we get back to daft things other diabetics have said.

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Maybe we have, and casting a dim note on a whimsical topic, and risking being the even present reaper in the shade, I don't think type 2 and type 1 insulin usage is the same, and I hope no one reading our pessimistic posts ever learn the distinction.

I think the oddest thing I've read recently is in a book called A-Z of special needs for every teacher. It was revised for the 2nd time in 2008.
It gives fairly good basic advice on diabetes for a start, if a little dated. States that diabetes that starts in childhood (type 1) is usually much more severe that when it begins in middle or old age?!
But then goes on to give a definition of the type 1 they have just referred to as this...
"Diabetes insipidus (type 1) is a metabolic disorder caused by a deficiency of the pituitary hormone which regulates the reabsorption of water in the kidneys. It is this type of diabetes that children and young people are most likely to have.
Diabetes mellitus (type 2) is much more common among adults, it is sometimes referred to as 'adult-onset' diabetes as it used to strike mainly in middle age,"

I couldn't work out if someone had just copied and pasted the wrong info in? Or if in fact my kidneys had been the problem this whole time?


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This thread is scary! I'm amazed we haven't all been killed off by people trying to help!

Having said that, - that T shirt you can get that says "jelly babies save lives"? I'm seriously thinking of having one made saying "no, I don't need a jelly baby!" It'd go nicely with the mug some of my pupils got me that says "I can only please one person a day. Today isn't your day and tomorrow doesn't look good either".

I think some of the confusion comes from there being different types of diabetes and different ways to handle it. - Then again, some of it is just bonkers!!
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Apparently I look too healthy to be diabetic!!!! I shouldn't drive my husband, who is in a wheelchair, because I am driving him illegally(!!!!)! I can't have children! My children will have diabetes!! I look too slim to be diabetic. I only want to lose weight. I should enjoy my food. Being told I am "good" eating apple pie (after being badgered for "not eating properly"). Why do I eat so healthily--have I got a "thing" about it? I make others feel guilty!! Diabetes caused me to develop bacterial meningitis. I talk like a old person about my health (well I was asked a question about my health so answered). Why don t I wear glasses (as other diabetics do)? I am not typical of the diabetic stereotype. It is only diabetes!! When was the last time I was in hospital for diabetes (1961)?! I will need a lot of time off work as I am diabetic. Is diabetes catching, someone they knew.............etc etc. At least I am not as bad as so & so who has to have 4 injections a day. Eating chocolate STOPS my body absorbing glucose. Eating cake caused me to have a hypo. Of course I will have had eye surgery to stop me going blind. I should go on a GI diet. I should go on a Daphne course.

Often I have a job to keep a straight face!!!!!

Thought of more--refused job in bank because bank doc said irregular working hours were not good for diabetics (bit of truth there but is out of context)!! I only know about diabetes management practise not physiology (good point but do not know why this was even said). How did I know about (something to do with diabetes management), NHS have just spent thousands on research in that field and got the same answer (how dare I be so insolent)!!! I will age more quickly than my contemporaries. Of course my wee will show sugar when tested. Ditto ketones, If you are hungry you must eat (hunger also occurs when blood sugar rises/ insulin depletes). The only way you can tell what BM is , is by testing (BM s are largely retrospective results). I need glucose tolerance test and must fast after eve meal (what if my bm is low before bed, can't sit for hours consuming glucose drinks and having blood tests without insulin injections). If I don't fast, have glucose tolerance test my other tests will be affected (how for goodness sake--but I suppose it will prove I am diabetic - diagnosed 52 years ago and IDD since).I will have fat babies (7 ilbs & 6 ilbs 6 ozs respectively). Of course, being diabetic, I will have had big babies (see previous comment). I shouldn t drink any alcohol at all, ever as it will make sugar go up!!! If you can't eat you shouldn't have any insulin. I should stop insulin then I will feel better. Eat this (pasta, bread, pastry or any other high CHO, slow or fast acting), it hasn't got any sugar in!!! You women are all the same, trying to lose weight.

Easier not to say anything and if you do people forget anyway (both not a lot of use if hypo and needing help but that is life!!!!)!!!

Wow

Hi, I am Type 1 (approx 27 years) and a Nurse... some colleagues still say to me 'Oh your not allowed to have that are you?' with regards to anything with sugar in..... I understand that the general public can be confused, but Nurses? Sigh......

Just though of another (scary) one. In Tesco's, approx. 30 miles from home and had forgotten (stupidly) to attach my pump. Felt very rough and asked to use phone . They called their first aider who on learning that my blood sugars were high asked if I would like something sweet to eat or drink..... I tried to remain polite ..... :shock:

Candybabe said:

Just though of another (scary) one. In Tesco's, approx. 30 miles from home and had forgotten (stupidly) to attach my pump. Felt very rough and asked to use phone . They called their first aider who on learning that my blood sugars were high asked if I would like something sweet to eat or drink..... I tried to remain polite ..... :shock:

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Good grief!! :shock:

Im type2 diagnosed in july.went for my diabetic eye test.im slim but so what.got to the clinic a nurse greeted me with "your not fat what are you doing here"!!please educate our health professionals.

My mum is T2 (on insulin) and a nurse. Out for a family meal on her birthday, she chose a place where there was only one thing on the menu that I could eat, and then only with it stripped of all the **** that came with it. She gave me a row, in front of my sisters-in-law, nephews and nieces, for being awkward! Then threw a poodie when I didn't want any cake! (I'm coeliac as well as a low carbing T2) does my mother really not know me at all?? - I'm 42?!?!


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I've had 2 especially bizarre comments said to me

1 when I told a business client I was diagnosed type 1 he said " but you are not fat"

2 when I told my old auntie she said " so how did you get that? " I said " if I knew that then I could help cure millions of people worldwide!

Unfortunately it's down to general ignorance of the condition. Best to educate people every time we encounter this

Oh there have been many, normally the main ones revolve around

1) "Oh you shouldn't be eating that should you"
2) "I didn't get you one because you're not allowed to eat any sugar"
3) " I've made you something different from everyone else" (normally carb free although I'm a T1 and obviously carbs will kill me)
4) " Have you still got that?" (my personal favourite)
5) " I wouldn't be able to inject myself, I don't like needles" (Neither do I but really there isn't a choice.)
6) One work colleague insisting that they can cure diabetes and directing me to a website to prove it. It turned out to be a hokum site for T2's concerning traditional Chinese medicine.
7) And of course the one to always look out for is the person who worries they wouldn't be able to help you if you had a hypo because they wouldn't know how to inject you with insulin. That is frankly a relief.

Take care of yourselves as there is a lot of well meaning nonsense out there!!

I suffer from Type 2, plus Sleep Apnoea, Metabolic Syndrome, Arthritis, and other minor probs. 4 years ago, my then manager started 'Disciplinary Procedure' against me, despite my never failing to hit any target set - she said 'We're actually supposed to do a bit better then just hitting targets'.
She looked up Diabetes on the Internet, and lectured me ' There are 2 types of Diabetes' (more, I think!), 'Hypoglycaemia, where the sugar is too high, and Hyperglycaemia, when it's too low. Which one have you got ?' !!!!!
I said 'I think you'll find the two main types are Type 1 and Type 2, the words you used describe symptoms which develop when the disease is not under control, and can apply to Types 1 and 2'.
Two years later, she was still trying to claim she only ever had my best interests at heart, and sadly is still in the job, although I have moved on.
Things have changed drastically since my grandmother died from Type 2 at age 55 (1945, before insulin), and as more treatments are discovered, we need to be aware and always open to new options. We can hardly expect the rest of the nation to be experts when we struggle ourselves, but health professionals MUST be required to keep up to date with all developments, our lives are in their hands.

"I can't exercise because I'm a diabetic" - no love, you can exercise but your fat logic won't allow you to do so, in fact it's probably why you have T2 diabetes :|

*Flame suit, ON.

BarbaraMc said:

I suffer from Type 2, plus Sleep Apnoea, Metabolic Syndrome, Arthritis, and other minor probs. 4 years ago, my then manager started 'Disciplinary Procedure' against me, despite my never failing to hit any target set - she said 'We're actually supposed to do a bit better then just hitting targets'.
She looked up Diabetes on the Internet, and lectured me ' There are 2 types of Diabetes' (more, I think!), 'Hypoglycaemia, where the sugar is too high, and Hyperglycaemia, when it's too low. Which one have you got ?' !!!!!
I said 'I think you'll find the two main types are Type 1 and Type 2, the words you used describe symptoms which develop when the disease is not under control, and can apply to Types 1 and 2'.
Two years later, she was still trying to claim she only ever had my best interests at heart, and sadly is still in the job, although I have moved on.
Things have changed drastically since my grandmother died from Type 2 at age 55 (1945, before insulin), and as more treatments are discovered, we need to be aware and always open to new options. We can hardly expect the rest of the nation to be experts when we struggle ourselves, but health professionals MUST be required to keep up to date with all developments, our lives are in their hands.

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I think you'll find that insulin was discovered well before 1945 (1922 in fact) but I do agree there is so much ignorance about T1. Over 47 years I think I've heard it all even from the medical profession themselves and that includes nurses in diabetic clinics. The latest was a consultant telling me I don't look like a 59 year old diabetic and was I one of the first to ever be given insulin!

From a social worker to a prospective foster carer - No, I'm sorry. We can't take your enquiry if you're a diabetic on insulin. You see, if you stop taking your insulin you may not be able to look after the child properly. :shock:

And a very sad and worrying one from a recently-diagnosed colleague when I told her about Diabetes UK and recommended a book I'd been reading that really helped me - I'm not going to bother with all that stuff. My doctor will test my levels again in 6 months. He knows best so I'll leave it to him. (In the meantime her symptoms have got worse in the last 3 weeks and she's coming to work with a bottle of lucozade and packet of biscuits 'in case I go hypo'. She's diet-controlled.) Scary and I'm very concerned about her.

Beggars belief really, all these stories. My mum seems to think there's nothing to worry about even though her aunt died from complications.

Carmina, the situation with your colleague sounds really scary. - We all know that the feeling you get when your BG is too high is very similar to the one for too low. It's really difficult to tell the difference, especially at the beginning.


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