RoseofSharon
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- Type of diabetes
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- Tablets (oral)
what's this business with her saying you shouldn't test? That sounds ridiculous to me. And saying you can't have a hypo on metformin is rubbish as I had my first hypo on metformin only and I've had plenty of hypos ever since. I know what a hypo is and how I react. I think she should be encouraging you to continue to test regularly. I'm sorry you had this experience... not good.
Unfortunately the present 'wisdom' prevalent is that metformin doesn't cause hypos. However if you read the insert from the medication it clearly states that you should be testing regularly!
The NHS, medical professionals, nutritionists, dietitians, school staff et al have all been influenced (indoctrinated) by the government's Eatwell guide (formerly the Eatwell Plate) since 1994. This is produced on the governments behalf by The British Nutrition Foundation (BNF). This is the governments 'go to' organisation for dietary advice. Just follow this link to see who the BNF's members are. Not the best advertisement for healthy eating.
https://www.nutrition.org.uk/aboutbnf/supporters/memberorganisations.html
Take absolutely no notice and carry on as you are.Hi all, thought I would let you all know how I got on yesterday at my 3 month review with diabetic nurse. She wasn't the diabetic nurse I usually see, the one I see is lovely and listens and seems to understand. This nurse really had an attitude, didn't listen to me properly, was asking me questions written on her note pad. Got off to a bad start as she asked me for a water sample [ didn't know I had to take one.] She then asked for the letter sent to me [ I never received one ] She said I would have had a letter so she looked in her diary [ Guess what I wasn't even in the book] She tried to cover this up by saying it was an oversight on the other diabetic nurses part.Next question off notepad Lets look at your 3 month BG results which were from 148 in Jan to now 54 she looked amazed but never asked me how I had achieved this, so I told her about this site, she said <Who told me to go on the site> I said the other diabetic nurse, she didn't even reply. I tried to tell her about the LCHF diet she didn't even reply
I showed her my diary with the daily BG readings, [ she glanced at them then asked < Why was I still testing? I didn't need to test anymore as Type 2s on Metformin will never have a Hypo and the Metformin are great for lowering B G levels !!!! GOT THE IMPRESSION SHE THOUGHT OH JUST TAKE THE TABLETS DIET DOESNT MATTER !!!!!! so I would probably not get a repeat prescription and if I wanted to carry on testing I could buy them of the internet >I told her my doc was happy for me to test 2-3 times a week, didn't even reply. Back to the notebook, next question, I will take your blood pressure and weigh you. Blood pressure fine [ I don't know how as at this moment in time I was livid. ] Weight good lost another 10lbs. Then this nurse said I needed to loose another 10lbs to get down to 62kg. [ I know she was only being informative but it was the attitude she had as though she knew all about being a Diabetic ] I only need to loose pounds she needed to loose stones Sorry about the sarcasm but I was so frustrated with her.
Then to put the top hat on it all I tried again to explain why I needed to keep testing my BG levels to see what foods I could tolerate, she didn't even seem to be interested at this point. What is going on why do some Diabetic [ proffessionals not listen ?
Have to go back in 3 months to see doctor will be asking questions.
I know a lot of people on here have had good discussions with their diabetic nurses [ I have had one with my normal nurse ] but this Diabetic Nurse wasn't one of them ] Came out and sat in car was so confused and frustrated more than anything. Unbelievable
Thank you dbr10 was annoyed at the time but getting used to the docs and diabetic nurses now they have no idea, as far as I am concerned they just read from their books perhaps if it was them they would gave a different outlook into being a diabeticTake absolutely no notice and carry on as you are.
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Hi thepolly, thank you for your reply, next time I think it may be my usual diabetic nurse if not I will ask to see her. She is a bit more easier to talk to.@amgrundy I'd probably put in a complaint about her attitude and inability to listen to you. Sounds like she was in a clinic that she was covering but just ask to be booked in with the nurse you want to see next time. I always book appts like this. You get someone that has more insight into your condition then. I'm newly diagnosed and out of 3 nurses I saw, 1 was a bit dismissive, 1 had heard of the blood sugar diet and some of its results and the 3rd (actual diabetic nurse) was supportive but said I shouldn't rule out meds (I refused point blank).
Official leaflet still gives lots of bad dietary advice - much carb heavy ****
Hi all, thought I would let you all know how I got on yesterday at my 3 month review with diabetic nurse. She wasn't the diabetic nurse I usually see, the one I see is lovely and listens and seems to understand. This nurse really had an attitude, didn't listen to me properly, was asking me questions written on her note pad. Got off to a bad start as she asked me for a water sample [ didn't know I had to take one.] She then asked for the letter sent to me [ I never received one ] She said I would have had a letter so she looked in her diary [ Guess what I wasn't even in the book] She tried to cover this up by saying it was an oversight on the other diabetic nurses part.Next question off notepad Lets look at your 3 month BG results which were from 148 in Jan to now 54 she looked amazed but never asked me how I had achieved this, so I told her about this site, she said <Who told me to go on the site> I said the other diabetic nurse, she didn't even reply. I tried to tell her about the LCHF diet she didn't even reply
I showed her my diary with the daily BG readings, [ she glanced at them then asked < Why was I still testing? I didn't need to test anymore as Type 2s on Metformin will never have a Hypo and the Metformin are great for lowering B G levels !!!! GOT THE IMPRESSION SHE THOUGHT OH JUST TAKE THE TABLETS DIET DOESNT MATTER !!!!!! so I would probably not get a repeat prescription and if I wanted to carry on testing I could buy them of the internet >I told her my doc was happy for me to test 2-3 times a week, didn't even reply. Back to the notebook, next question, I will take your blood pressure and weigh you. Blood pressure fine [ I don't know how as at this moment in time I was livid. ] Weight good lost another 10lbs. Then this nurse said I needed to loose another 10lbs to get down to 62kg. [ I know she was only being informative but it was the attitude she had as though she knew all about being a Diabetic ] I only need to loose pounds she needed to loose stones Sorry about the sarcasm but I was so frustrated with her.
Then to put the top hat on it all I tried again to explain why I needed to keep testing my BG levels to see what foods I could tolerate, she didn't even seem to be interested at this point. What is going on why do some Diabetic [ proffessionals not listen ?
Have to go back in 3 months to see doctor will be asking questions.
I know a lot of people on here have had good discussions with their diabetic nurses [ I have had one with my normal nurse ] but this Diabetic Nurse wasn't one of them ] Came out and sat in car was so confused and frustrated more than anything. Unbelievable
I had the same experience yesterday, I was told the same,but my blood sugar which has fallen she would not listen to or ask how I managed,I think there is something going on with these nurses ,only promoting tablets and buy your own stripes .Hi all, thought I would let you all know how I got on yesterday at my 3 month review with diabetic nurse. She wasn't the diabetic nurse I usually see, the one I see is lovely and listens and seems to understand. This nurse really had an attitude, didn't listen to me properly, was asking me questions written on her note pad. Got off to a bad start as she asked me for a water sample [ didn't know I had to take one.] She then asked for the letter sent to me [ I never received one ] She said I would have had a letter so she looked in her diary [ Guess what I wasn't even in the book] She tried to cover this up by saying it was an oversight on the other diabetic nurses part.Next question off notepad Lets look at your 3 month BG results which were from 148 in Jan to now 54 she looked amazed but never asked me how I had achieved this, so I told her about this site, she said <Who told me to go on the site> I said the other diabetic nurse, she didn't even reply. I tried to tell her about the LCHF diet she didn't even reply
I showed her my diary with the daily BG readings, [ she glanced at them then asked < Why was I still testing? I didn't need to test anymore as Type 2s on Metformin will never have a Hypo and the Metformin are great for lowering B G levels !!!! GOT THE IMPRESSION SHE THOUGHT OH JUST TAKE THE TABLETS DIET DOESNT MATTER !!!!!! so I would probably not get a repeat prescription and if I wanted to carry on testing I could buy them of the internet >I told her my doc was happy for me to test 2-3 times a week, didn't even reply. Back to the notebook, next question, I will take your blood pressure and weigh you. Blood pressure fine [ I don't know how as at this moment in time I was livid. ] Weight good lost another 10lbs. Then this nurse said I needed to loose another 10lbs to get down to 62kg. [ I know she was only being informative but it was the attitude she had as though she knew all about being a Diabetic ] I only need to loose pounds she needed to loose stones Sorry about the sarcasm but I was so frustrated with her.
Then to put the top hat on it all I tried again to explain why I needed to keep testing my BG levels to see what foods I could tolerate, she didn't even seem to be interested at this point. What is going on why do some Diabetic [ proffessionals not listen ?
Have to go back in 3 months to see doctor will be asking questions.
I know a lot of people on here have had good discussions with their diabetic nurses [ I have had one with my normal nurse ] but this Diabetic Nurse wasn't one of them ] Came out and sat in car was so confused and frustrated more than anything. Unbelievable
what's this business with her saying you shouldn't test? That sounds ridiculous to me. And saying you can't have a hypo on metformin is rubbish as I had my first hypo on metformin only and I've had plenty of hypos ever since. I know what a hypo is and how I react. I think she should be encouraging you to continue to test regularly. I'm sorry you had this experience... not good.
I think it's because we worked jointly from the start.@douglas99 Maybe it's because you would like to keep it that way..
@amgrundy For diabetic nurse read diabolical nurse wrong on so many counts Just keep your own council and carry on with what you have been doing as it's worked so well for you and congrats on that.
@TypicaltwoThe NHS, medical professionals, nutritionists, dietitians, school staff et al have all been influenced (indoctrinated) by the government's Eatwell guide (formerly the Eatwell Plate) since 1994. This is produced on the governments behalf by The British Nutrition Foundation (BNF). This is the governments 'go to' organisation for dietary advice. Just follow this link to see who the BNF's members are. Not the best advertisement for healthy eating.
https://www.nutrition.org.uk/aboutbnf/supporters/memberorganisations.html
Also, the other diabetes site, Diabetes UK [not this site but diabetes.org] who also get consulted for diabetes advice, have a similar list of sponsors, the main one being ASDA. They do not support any LC diet approach, but are fully behind Eatwell#2 as well as High Carb, LOW FAT.@Typicaltwo
Wow! Greggs? Heinz? It actually hurt my eyes reading that list.
It takes two to make a relationship work. And two to listen. If only one will listen and work with the other person, its not going to work.I think it's because we worked jointly from the start.
I listened to what she said, then we changed it as time went on.
But you are right, I do like to keep a good relationship going.
Maybe my English isn't too good but this seems to me a low-carb diet.They do not support any LC diet approach, but are fully behind Eatwell#2 as well as High Carb, LOW FAT.
Here supermarkets are quite happy to sell you food for a low-carb high-fat diet or a Mediterranean diet.the main one being ASDA.
Maybe my English isn't too good but this seems to me a low-carb diet.
https://www.diabetes.org.uk/Guide-to-diabetes/Enjoy-food/Eating-with-diabetes/Meal-plans-/Low-carb/
At the end of the diet there are some advices about the risks of taking an LCHF diet especially in one takes insulin.
Here supermarkets are quite happy to sell you food for a low-carb high-fat diet or a Mediterranean diet.
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