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Did You Read This In The Telegraph Today?

  • Choose poultry, fish or lean cuts of white meat. Red and processed meats are associated with increased risk of type 2 diabetes and some cancers. Meals prepared with fresh, unprocessed meat are preferable to ready-made or 'fast food' meals.
  • Buy whole-grain bread, rice and pasta. White bread and white rice are turned into glucose rapidly; excess consumption of white rice is associated with increased risk of type 2 diabetes.
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The overall coverage is good...but can't say I agree with those two points :D ...
 
Thanks for that and I like this bit.

"A spokeswoman for PHE said: “Our advice, agreed with Diabetes UK, is that people with diabetes should consume a diet consistent with the Eatwell Guide."

I wonder who Diabetes UK and the Eatwell Guide will point the finger at.
 
kokhongw said:
The overall coverage is good...but can't say I agree with those two points :D ...
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Total agreement.

That link the media have conjured up between red meat and processed meat (all colours) simply won't die, will it?

Gets rolled out at every opportunity.

And the quoted carb advice is just absurd. As usual.
 
Yep they are diluting the low carb message and causing even more confusion which of course is their aim.
 
I've got a short response piece going in the Sunday Times this week, but it may be edited so will have to see how it comes across. I'll get the link so you can all critique it and let me know if you think Ive been an idiot:)


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Common sense low carbs less insulin needed
 
I refuse to read the Torygraph on principle, but apart from being rabid climate change deniers and being more conservative than the conservative party - they do amazingly get a lot of science right - almost uniquely amongst British newspapers, it's uncannily like they actually understand it.
 
I have been doing a little experiment on myself. First, I transitioned over the course of a week or two to a significantly lower carb, lower insulin, higher fat diet; stayed on it for a two or three months and blood glucose levels levelled out. Re-introduced higher levels of carb., plus (initially) the sorts of levels of insulin my body would have needed before my LCHF experiment. Disastrous response, and a need for extra regulatory doses of insulin to bring BG down for any significant carb intake. I shall be going back to lower carb, lower insulin, better me from now on, transitioning again as I know the body has to get used to knowing how to bring about any kind of dynamic stasis. (57.5 years in with Type 1and still learning!) My sister reminded me recently that a low carb, high fat diet was what I was initially brought up on in the late fifties and early sixties - I had a lot of cheese as a young child - and possibly why early diet has protected me from too many side-effects, health-wise.

I am told that my insulin intake is low for a T1: 5u Lantus (down from 10, before LCHF) and bolus dose of 4,4,4 Novorapid, as intake requires, given later metabolising of protein to BG, (In my recent upping of CHO intake I was back way up at 8: 8, 8, 8, plus some regulatory doses.) Up and down does not suit my system at all.

Anyway, sorry to bore, but sometimes we have to try for ourselves what we think may be soundly based and workable, or best for us, though I would add that getting a doctor's advice before radically changing diet and insulin regime is highly advisable.

I see, I drive, my kidneys work (though the blood supply to my legs is down to 65% - but I smoked for years...). I feel better knowing my BG will be under 13 but not much below 4, and when I was stable on LCHF it was between 4 and 8 - 9 all the time it was marvellous, so I'm going back there. I am already on statins - seems to be standard - so I'll ask for a blood test in about three months, I guess, and weigh up the odds. My latest diabetic clinic appointment gave me no opportunity to discuss all this, my experience, my reasons etc. so with the help of this forum I am ploughing my own furrow.
 
TJR56 said:
I have been doing a little experiment on myself. First, I transitioned over the course of a week or two to a significantly lower carb, lower insulin, higher fat diet; stayed on it for a two or three months and blood glucose levels levelled out. Re-introduced higher levels of carb., plus (initially) the sorts of levels of insulin my body would have needed before my LCHF experiment. Disastrous response, and a need for extra regulatory doses of insulin to bring BG down for any significant carb intake. I shall be going back to lower carb, lower insulin, better me from now on, transitioning again as I know the body has to get used to knowing how to bring about any kind of dynamic stasis. (57.5 years in with Type 1and still learning!) My sister reminded me recently that a low carb, high fat diet was what I was initially brought up on in the late fifties and early sixties - I had a lot of cheese as a young child - and possibly why early diet has protected me from too many side-effects, health-wise.

I am told that my insulin intake is low for a T1: 5u Lantus (down from 10, before LCHF) and bolus dose of 4,4,4 Novorapid, as intake requires, given later metabolising of protein to BG, (In my recent upping of CHO intake I was back way up at 8: 8, 8, 8, plus some regulatory doses.) Up and down does not suit my system at all.

Anyway, sorry to bore, but sometimes we have to try for ourselves what we think may be soundly based and workable, or best for us, though I would add that getting a doctor's advice before radically changing diet and insulin regime is highly advisable.

I see, I drive, my kidneys work (though the blood supply to my legs is down to 65% - but I smoked for years...). I feel better knowing my BG will be under 13 but not much below 4, and when I was stable on LCHF it was between 4 and 8 - 9 all the time it was marvellous, so I'm going back there. I am already on statins - seems to be standard - so I'll ask for a blood test in about three months, I guess, and weigh up the odds. My latest diabetic clinic appointment gave me no opportunity to discuss all this, my experience, my reasons etc. so with the help of this forum I am ploughing my own furrow.
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Congratulations on your decision. It worked previously, so take the journey there again and enjoy occupying a more stable, healthier life.

It was great to read you post:)


Diagnosed 13/4/16: T2, no meds, HbA1c 53, FBG 12.6, Trigs 3.6, HDL .75, LDL 4.0, BP 169/95, 13st 8lbs, waist 34" (2012 - 17st 7lbs, w 42").

14/6/16: FBG AV 4.6, Trigs 1.5, HDL 2.0, LDL 3.0, BP 112/68, BPM 66, 11st 7lbs, waist 30". Lifelong migraines and hay fever gone.

Regime: 20g LCHF, run 1 mile daily, weekly fasting.
 
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