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Diet and Victoza

elizabethsoye

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Other
I have recently been asked by my GP to consider Victoza injections. I am currently on tablets only. Does anybody have any advise that could help me to make this decision as I am unsure about injections and wondered if there may be another option.
 
Hi @elizabethsoye and welcome to the forum.

Tell us a bit about yourself and we will try and help.
What was your last HBA1c?
What tablets are you on at the moment?
Do you have any weight to lose?
Do you have any other health conditions?
Tell us what you eat on a typical day.


@daisy will be along to give you a basic guide which should help.
 
Hello elizabethsoye, I have been on Victoza for just over a year, after the decision by the diabetic doctor at the hospital. I am still taking metformin and gliclazide in the prescribed routine.
So the injection sounds worrying, but the whole thing is only a tiny little needle, currently 4mm in size, and there is very little feeling when doing the injection, so try not to be frightened. The site I mainly use is the thighs, half way up, the muscular part of the leg, or the stomach or upper arm will do.

There are other ones in this new medication for the treatment of diabetes, but Victoza is a once a day treatment, I have heard that there is meant to be the extra effect of weight loss as a bonus, I have not found this to be the case, it slows down the transit of food through the stomach and intestine.
I have unfortunately
found a problem with constipation, and the need for appropriate medication for this.
My weight has fluctuated a great deal and I am not sure if this right for me, Next month..April will be my follow up appointment to see how things are going,(25/01/2014-16/04/2015) this doctor is very busy to say the least, so I would say approach the possibility with an open mind and keep an eye on the bs readings and also on your weight, so you can assess your progress.

Victoza comes in boxes of 3 pens, which is how my pharmacy dispenses them, so the dose I am on is 1.2ml each day, so I use 2 pens per month, store the third, and the next month continues, and every other month I don't repeat the script so that I work my stock down, and the little needles come in boxes of 100, so it is about 21/2 months then reorder the next box, and you will need a 1lt yellow sharps box to put the little needle into, these are slao available free on repeat script, and last about 2-3 months, then take it back to the chemist to dispose of it when filled to the line.

Catherinecherub hello, you have asked for a great deal of information, will this help in what way?
Not to worry though, elizabeth's doctor must have his reasons for offering this treatment at this time,


I am not sure about this treatment, I am struggling to find the benefit's that are meant to be a part of the Victoza' medication treatment. I will ask lots of questions next month, and go from there, in the mean time my appointment with the bone doc's is on the 25th March and my knees need replacing, right one first, so weight loss is needed..... I think the lchf diet is going to have to work for me!!!???

So elizabeth go forward and be brave, ttfn from Karen.....
 
@elizabethsoye

Hello Elizabeth and welcome to the forum :)

Here is the basic information we give to new members which Catherine mentioned and I hope you will find it helpful. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will try and help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 140,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hello Daisy1, what a welcome this is, I did not get this but never mind. I have read through it and there is a lot to work through to get to where a person needs to be, ttfn from Karen
 
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