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<blockquote data-quote="Hazehkm" data-source="post: 436665" data-attributes="member: 76884"><p>Hi everyone! Sorry, I've not been on here recently, been super busy - so I missed all these posts, including the one from the dietician, which was certainly an interesting read.</p><p></p><p>With regards to the make-up of my diet, it's certainly not loaded with meat and high fat. I would say the bulk of my diet is vegetables - steamed, no butter or anything like that - I have them as they come. I also eat a lot of fruit. I have lean meat (a reasonable sized, weighed, portion of chicken) or fish maybe 2 - 3 times a week, and an egg for breakfast at the weekends. I like a bit of cheese with fruit sometimes but I limit it to twice a week. I also make homemade soup - no cream, butter or potatoes in it - it's tomato based and I bulk it up with lentils/pulses, and add spices to give it a kick... and it's delicious, filling and I'm looking forward to it during the winter as it's very warming. I make sure I drink plenty of water - and the only other thing I drink is black coffee - nothing in it. I use herbs with my cooking to add flavour, I have switched all my cookware so that I need minimal oil - I use 1 cal spray most of the time - and when doing a stir fry, lemon juice and soy sauce is a fab combination and adds a delicious flavour to chicken and nice vegetables. There's no need for heavy oil or processed sauces out of jars.</p><p></p><p>Now, I have a couple of interesting updates/bits of information, with particular reference to the low carb thing.</p><p></p><p>First of all - last week I had my appointment with the DN and it was confirmed that my blood sugar levels are now back at NORMAL and I DO NOT need medication. I was thrilled to bits with that and surely it HAS to be the healthier and preferable choice. I've now lost 3 and a half stone - well - just over that - and the DN was extremely impressed! She actually said she wanted to put me in front of her other patients as an example/inspiration! I do like my DN - she has been very supportive and has allowed me to take control of this myself and show just what can be done when you do your own research and find a healthy way forward. So that's all good.</p><p></p><p>With regards to the energy thing and how we need carbs for energy - I honestly believe from my own experience - that this belief comes from the crash everyone has for the first couple of weeks when coming off carbs. Very few people will make it beyond a few days - they have the crash, feel rough and tired - decide they NEED the carbs for the energy and go straight back on them. However, I am here to say, that if you push through that crash - when you come out the other side of it, your energy returns to normal and in fact is BETTER than on carbs. When you follow a diet like mine you don't experience the spikes and crashes you get with starchy carbs and sugar. It all evens out and even more, you don't crave the carbs because it's only the carbs that make us crave more - it's not real. The same applies to refined sugar - first couple of weeks while you stop it, you feel rough but then when you come out the other side - WOW! You feel amazing and the cravings are SIGNIFICANTLY reduced - almost zero. </p><p></p><p>Allow me to share a little experience from the last couple of days which to me - proves this point. I was away at a works conference yesterday - it was an all day thing. The lunch that was put on was essentially carb hell! Pasta, potatoes, more pasta and well... even more pasta! Due to speakers over-running, lunch became a quick affair and so I didn't have time to go querying with the hotel if someone could rustle something up for me to suit my diet. So against my better judgment, for the first time in months, I caved and allowed myself some carbs just so I got to eat SOMETHING as it was the only thing on offer all day apart from biscuits and sweets and they were DEFINITELY out of the question. So I had the carbs... not a lot... I didn't finish it - but I had enough. Now firstly - I have to say - having been off carbs like this for some time and following a very fresh and healthy diet - it felt so disgusting and alien to eat this stuff, I found myself wondering why I ever ate it before - but that's that. The important bit came after that - and relates to the needing carbs for energy thing. As I say - on my normal diet I feel fine, I have plenty energy, I can work out consistently for solid periods of time, I feel good. Yet after having the carbs... oh dear! My energy levels slumped, I felt sluggish and my concentration in the afternoon conference session was significantly diminished. As I got the train home ... the remainder of the effects kicked in... headaches, sweats, nausea, stomach pain, my legs felt like lead, I felt SOOOOOO ill - and it literally felt like I'd taken some kind of awful drug and was going through withdrawal! I've had to drink bottle after bottle of water today to try and flush it out my system. I've never been so happy to see a bowl of fresh steamed veggies in my life! I was literally CRAVING fruit, veggies, water... anything fresh and healthy I could find. </p><p></p><p>After that - I'm sorry, but there isn't a dietician in the world who could tell me that eating starchy carbs is beneficial to my body. Since taking them out my diet I've lost all this weight, I feel better than ever, and my diet is full of fresh, healthy, nutritious food that keeps me satisfied - and keeps my diabetes under control. That, frankly, is all I need to know. If you eat something and it makes you feel as awful as I did last night - I'm sorry, but that isn't good and as far as I'm concerned, it's my body protesting and telling me I shouldn't be eating that.</p><p></p><p>My overall diet is healthier than it's been in years and I'm prepared to assert that it's healthier than most people's diets (in the general population that is). Lean meat, proper portion sizes, loading on fresh vegetables and fruit, occasional small measured portion of low fat cheese, lots of water... nothing processed... I feel fantastic and am fitter than ever... and I exercise regularly. I'm sure there are people who would assert that my diet needs the carbs to be properly healthy - but given my experience above, I would strongly disagree and I consider my diet to be as healthy as it can be.</p><p></p><p>To anyone who is pushing to manage their condition through diet only - go for it - take control, do it strictly for 3 months and watch the difference. Then ask for your blood to be re-checked. It's YOUR body, you are in control, and while I don't advocate anyone being foolish, I do believe (and know for a fact) that not all medical professionals get it right; you have a right to question things and to make decisions that are right for your body. I would agree that resistance probably comes when we challenge advice with sound evidence that we are right and they have no answer for us... but that doesn't mean we shouldn't challenge information that we believe to be wrong. I'm a believer in questioning EVERYTHING - do your OWN research, find what works for you and if you can get your bloods/condition under control through healthy diet... I say go for it! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hazehkm, post: 436665, member: 76884"] Hi everyone! Sorry, I've not been on here recently, been super busy - so I missed all these posts, including the one from the dietician, which was certainly an interesting read. With regards to the make-up of my diet, it's certainly not loaded with meat and high fat. I would say the bulk of my diet is vegetables - steamed, no butter or anything like that - I have them as they come. I also eat a lot of fruit. I have lean meat (a reasonable sized, weighed, portion of chicken) or fish maybe 2 - 3 times a week, and an egg for breakfast at the weekends. I like a bit of cheese with fruit sometimes but I limit it to twice a week. I also make homemade soup - no cream, butter or potatoes in it - it's tomato based and I bulk it up with lentils/pulses, and add spices to give it a kick... and it's delicious, filling and I'm looking forward to it during the winter as it's very warming. I make sure I drink plenty of water - and the only other thing I drink is black coffee - nothing in it. I use herbs with my cooking to add flavour, I have switched all my cookware so that I need minimal oil - I use 1 cal spray most of the time - and when doing a stir fry, lemon juice and soy sauce is a fab combination and adds a delicious flavour to chicken and nice vegetables. There's no need for heavy oil or processed sauces out of jars. Now, I have a couple of interesting updates/bits of information, with particular reference to the low carb thing. First of all - last week I had my appointment with the DN and it was confirmed that my blood sugar levels are now back at NORMAL and I DO NOT need medication. I was thrilled to bits with that and surely it HAS to be the healthier and preferable choice. I've now lost 3 and a half stone - well - just over that - and the DN was extremely impressed! She actually said she wanted to put me in front of her other patients as an example/inspiration! I do like my DN - she has been very supportive and has allowed me to take control of this myself and show just what can be done when you do your own research and find a healthy way forward. So that's all good. With regards to the energy thing and how we need carbs for energy - I honestly believe from my own experience - that this belief comes from the crash everyone has for the first couple of weeks when coming off carbs. Very few people will make it beyond a few days - they have the crash, feel rough and tired - decide they NEED the carbs for the energy and go straight back on them. However, I am here to say, that if you push through that crash - when you come out the other side of it, your energy returns to normal and in fact is BETTER than on carbs. When you follow a diet like mine you don't experience the spikes and crashes you get with starchy carbs and sugar. It all evens out and even more, you don't crave the carbs because it's only the carbs that make us crave more - it's not real. The same applies to refined sugar - first couple of weeks while you stop it, you feel rough but then when you come out the other side - WOW! You feel amazing and the cravings are SIGNIFICANTLY reduced - almost zero. Allow me to share a little experience from the last couple of days which to me - proves this point. I was away at a works conference yesterday - it was an all day thing. The lunch that was put on was essentially carb hell! Pasta, potatoes, more pasta and well... even more pasta! Due to speakers over-running, lunch became a quick affair and so I didn't have time to go querying with the hotel if someone could rustle something up for me to suit my diet. So against my better judgment, for the first time in months, I caved and allowed myself some carbs just so I got to eat SOMETHING as it was the only thing on offer all day apart from biscuits and sweets and they were DEFINITELY out of the question. So I had the carbs... not a lot... I didn't finish it - but I had enough. Now firstly - I have to say - having been off carbs like this for some time and following a very fresh and healthy diet - it felt so disgusting and alien to eat this stuff, I found myself wondering why I ever ate it before - but that's that. The important bit came after that - and relates to the needing carbs for energy thing. As I say - on my normal diet I feel fine, I have plenty energy, I can work out consistently for solid periods of time, I feel good. Yet after having the carbs... oh dear! My energy levels slumped, I felt sluggish and my concentration in the afternoon conference session was significantly diminished. As I got the train home ... the remainder of the effects kicked in... headaches, sweats, nausea, stomach pain, my legs felt like lead, I felt SOOOOOO ill - and it literally felt like I'd taken some kind of awful drug and was going through withdrawal! I've had to drink bottle after bottle of water today to try and flush it out my system. I've never been so happy to see a bowl of fresh steamed veggies in my life! I was literally CRAVING fruit, veggies, water... anything fresh and healthy I could find. After that - I'm sorry, but there isn't a dietician in the world who could tell me that eating starchy carbs is beneficial to my body. Since taking them out my diet I've lost all this weight, I feel better than ever, and my diet is full of fresh, healthy, nutritious food that keeps me satisfied - and keeps my diabetes under control. That, frankly, is all I need to know. If you eat something and it makes you feel as awful as I did last night - I'm sorry, but that isn't good and as far as I'm concerned, it's my body protesting and telling me I shouldn't be eating that. My overall diet is healthier than it's been in years and I'm prepared to assert that it's healthier than most people's diets (in the general population that is). Lean meat, proper portion sizes, loading on fresh vegetables and fruit, occasional small measured portion of low fat cheese, lots of water... nothing processed... I feel fantastic and am fitter than ever... and I exercise regularly. I'm sure there are people who would assert that my diet needs the carbs to be properly healthy - but given my experience above, I would strongly disagree and I consider my diet to be as healthy as it can be. To anyone who is pushing to manage their condition through diet only - go for it - take control, do it strictly for 3 months and watch the difference. Then ask for your blood to be re-checked. It's YOUR body, you are in control, and while I don't advocate anyone being foolish, I do believe (and know for a fact) that not all medical professionals get it right; you have a right to question things and to make decisions that are right for your body. I would agree that resistance probably comes when we challenge advice with sound evidence that we are right and they have no answer for us... but that doesn't mean we shouldn't challenge information that we believe to be wrong. I'm a believer in questioning EVERYTHING - do your OWN research, find what works for you and if you can get your bloods/condition under control through healthy diet... I say go for it! :) [/QUOTE]
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